Forum? (Was Re: Neo Sound and USB Questions)

Tilman Baumann tilman at
Wed Aug 22 16:32:50 CEST 2007

Sorry. I had uncontrollable spasms in my mouse finger. Or whatever. This 
mail was not intentionally sent. Sorry

I just wanted to agree with harald. But not whith sending a blanc email. :)

Forums suck for many reasons. (No filter, no archiving, no offline use, ...)
No FOSS project of any importance needed a forum for anything.

If someone likes forums so much. Write a mailinglist-2-frum proxy.
Or make a pimped up verison of the list arcives for browser use.
(This is a part where all/most mailinglists really stink at the moment)

Tilman Baumann wrote:
> Harald Welte wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 11:19:57AM +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>>> Harald,
>>> please calm down. I know from your blog how upset you are from setting
>>> up the new office location, networks and servers during Taifun time.
>> in fact that was the most fun part.
>>> But just one question to answer for yourself: do you want to have
>>> community involvement or not?
>> I am from the community ;)  And not in my 10+ years of FOSS community
>> development have I seen any project that had problems with properly
>> using mailinglists. 
>> Forums are for people who don't understand the technology of properly
>> dealing with e-mails.   Of what use is something that's only available
>> online?  Of no use at all.  Try keeping a local copy of a forum on your
>> laptop.  Why should openmoko be any different?
>> We will most likely have a forum for _end users_ at a time where we want
>> to address end users.  But not for developers, sorry.
>>> Now as your network appears to work again, please focus on solving 
>>> kernel, uboot, etc. issues that we as the "dumb users" can't solve 
>>> ourselves.
>>> I am for example still fighting the issue with short and long rootfs
>>> flashing and NAND erasing, that leaves an inoperable OpenMoko device 
>> If you consider yourself a "dumb user", then you probably are not the
>> kind of developer crowd  that we are addressing at this moment :(

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