At the risk of being flamed : State of software

Tim Shannon shannon.timothy at
Fri Aug 24 17:26:28 CEST 2007

They aren't reinventing the wheel, it's GTK.  And as far as GPL not being
important, I think you miss the point of the entire project.  Open source
isn't just about free software, it's about a free community.

On 8/24/07, wim delvaux <wim.delvaux at> wrote:
> HI all,
> Champion of open source and user of familiar on Ipaq when time was new, i
> wonder if it was such a good idea to rewrite from scratch an entire GUI
> system.
> Knowing that the device is now about 6 months late and looking at the
> overall
> stability and completeness of the GUI (List of issues is still long
> perhaps
> too long ?) I wonder if it would not have been a better solution to put
> things like QTopia on the phone. I mean, how long will it still take to
> get
> things to this level
> (
> ?
> Perhaps with a different style or something but at least QTopia has been
> around for quite a few years, sporting a nice portfolio of apps, having a
> nice ,portable and powerfull GUI library.
> I know that the software is not fully GPL and FREE but what REALLY is
> Fully
> free ? AFAIK you can mess around with qtopia ad lib (hey, look at opie's
> fork), sources are available, support is great (KDE ...) and for FIC's
> sake,
> they can focus there entire resource of a great phone.
> For me, the free community does not need (really) a new GUI library.  It
> needs
> a good phone ! Our interest lies in having a nicely featured device
> available
> so that we hackers can release our creativity and write apps that users
> like
> and not - yet again - re-invent the wheel to start all over again.  And
> for
> what ? For a theme ? For true GPL ? ...
> So what about porting QTopia to the NEO as backup scenario ? I.e. how much
> more delays can we afford ?
> W
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