At the risk of being flamed : State of software

Tilman Baumann tilman at
Fri Aug 24 19:39:16 CEST 2007

I like Qtopie too. Especially considering how well they could handle 
embedded guis for years.

But in reallity. qt and c++ is a limitation. Look how far Opie was 
evolved during the last years and how god id was from the beginning. But 
it still was more or less insignificant.

Then look how far Nokia got with theyr maemo gtk modell. Within half a 
year they had a big community and lots of great programms ported.

Sure, gtk and x is not as clean as qt is. But what does it help?

I'm quite happy with the choice. But i would enjoy trieung out qtopia on 
my neo if anyone ports it. But where the real stuff goes on is the 
pragmatic way.

wim delvaux wrote:
> HI all,
> Champion of open source and user of familiar on Ipaq when time was new, i 
> wonder if it was such a good idea to rewrite from scratch an entire GUI 
> system.
> Knowing that the device is now about 6 months late and looking at the overall 
> stability and completeness of the GUI (List of issues is still long perhaps 
> too long ?) I wonder if it would not have been a better solution to put 
> things like QTopia on the phone. I mean, how long will it still take to get 
> things to this level 
> ( ?
> Perhaps with a different style or something but at least QTopia has been 
> around for quite a few years, sporting a nice portfolio of apps, having a 
> nice ,portable and powerfull GUI library.
> I know that the software is not fully GPL and FREE but what REALLY is Fully 
> free ? AFAIK you can mess around with qtopia ad lib (hey, look at opie's 
> fork), sources are available, support is great (KDE ...) and for FIC's sake, 
> they can focus there entire resource of a great phone.
> For me, the free community does not need (really) a new GUI library.  It needs 
> a good phone ! Our interest lies in having a nicely featured device available 
> so that we hackers can release our creativity and write apps that users like 
> and not - yet again - re-invent the wheel to start all over again.  And for 
> what ? For a theme ? For true GPL ? ...
> So what about porting QTopia to the NEO as backup scenario ? I.e. how much 
> more delays can we afford ?
> W
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