Yet another finger keybord (gui mock-up).

--- gsilva.85 at
Mon Aug 27 14:47:32 CEST 2007

 Just an information about: " That will be a very different layout than
someone who does
short hand or abbreviated messaging." the layouts are not so different as
you think... Using the same language on conversations if you produce a
layout optimized to that language it will cover the full word and the
abbreviated one. Check this paper : on
"Digraph Frequency"


On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:35, "Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik" wrote:
> > On 20:15:37 2007-08-26 "Edwin Lock" < edwinlock at> wrote:
> >>  So you have to get used to it every time again? doesn't seem like a
> >> very
> >>  good idea.
> >>  My experience is that people like to get used to things and do them
> >>  like the got used to, not change..
> >>
> >>  - Edwin
> >>
> >
> > A dynamic input... I like it... But let's put it this way... it
> > shouldn't
> > be to hard to add an option to either use a dynamic input or a
> > pre-defined/custom
> > static one. Give the user the final choice. But then that's just me...
> > I
> > like the user having as much choice as possible.
> >
> > --
> > Andraž "ruskie" Levstik
> Ok, I didn't actually mean after each and every keystroke. I was trying
> to float the idea. The actual implementation would obviously be up to
> some kind of experimentation.
> I can't see how removing the unused characters and adding more used
> characters could be a bad thing. Granted you let the user decide to
> switch and always have the ability to go back to default.. But each user
> will have a different vocabulary and thus a different optimization
> specifically for them.
> as a bad example take someone who always talks in leet speek when
> messaging.  That will be a very different layout than someone who does
> short hand or abbreviated messaging. If the program could figure out,
> say each night or when the user chooses or what not, which letters or
> symbols they use most and build an appropriate step heirarchy then you
> could optimize the path for fewest drag type operations and more click
> operations. Or at least that's how it seems to me.  Then once the
> sequences are determined, let the user position them on the grid in a
> manner that feels right to them. For each user that might be different.
> Anyway, some will like it and some will disable it in favor of the
> default or non-assisted but customly defined layout.  Personally, I
> would not mind having the least used letters changed out for more used
> letters based on my usage patters in a semi automatic way, if I could
> anchor my most used letters to positions where they feel comfortable.
> --Tim
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