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Harish Pillay harish.pillay at gmail.com
Fri Dec 28 03:34:35 CET 2007

[we are getting way off topic here]

On Dec 27, 2007 9:02 PM, GWMobile <geopilot at mindspring.com> wrote:
> I strongly disagree with you here.
> Email should be instanteous and if the specs haven't been updated to
> call for that then the specs are outdated.

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html section on "Sending Strategy"

  "The general model for an SMTP client is one or more processes that
   periodically attempt to transmit outgoing mail.  In a typical system,
   the program that composes a message has some method for requesting
   immediate attention for a new piece of outgoing mail, while mail that
   cannot be transmitted immediately MUST be queued and periodically
   retried by the sender.  A mail queue entry will include not only the
   message itself but also the envelope information.

   The sender MUST delay retrying a particular destination after one
   attempt has failed.  In general, the retry interval SHOULD be at
   least 30 minutes; however, more sophisticated and variable strategies
   will be beneficial when the SMTP client can determine the reason for

   Retries continue until the message is transmitted or the sender gives
   up; the give-up time generally needs to be at least 4-5 days.  The
   parameters to the retry algorithm MUST be configurable."

> I don't stay on groups with email delays because it is impossible to
> have a conversation.

It would more appropriate if the right tools were used for the right job.
If you need to have "instantaneous conversations", email was never
meant for that.  IRC and instant messaging is what you need.  Email
is great for threads of discussions that can be archieved, searched
and worked on.

However, if you think it is important that email be instantaneous like
IRC, do please work on updating RFC2821.

Harish Pillay h.pillay at ieee.org gpg id: 74609E3
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