Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)

Ryan Kline radryan214 at
Mon Feb 12 16:26:50 CET 2007

Woah! That's a lot of information. Let me try to peice it together:

I have both a PPC and an Intel-Mac, Do I just download the Linux  
VMWare? It doesn't seem to have support for Os X.

What is OE/BB?

Are you saying i need to program in a Linux environment?

On Feb 12, 2007, at 9:21 AM, Michael Dickens wrote:

> Ryan - Someone suggested getting VMWare & setting up a Ubuntu  
> VM ... this is a -great- suggestion since you're running OSX, -if-  
> you have an Intel-Mac.  If you have a PPC-Mac, then this is not an  
> option (AFAIK), and you'll need to either (1) install Linux on  
> another hard drive / partition and direct boot into it (which might  
> require hacking the firmware), or (2) use OE/BB directly on OSX.   
> While one -can- get OE/BB running under OSX, at least  
> theoretically, it's not as simple as doing it under Linux; Apple  
> provides some GNU tools, but some are Apple-specific (e.g.  
> "libtool" is Apple-specific on OSX, and thus with using "GNU  
> libtool" many folks rename it "glibtool" etc).  For the second  
> option, I'd recommend using MacPorts to install the background  
> stuff for OE/BB.  I'm actually trying to get OE/BB working on OSX  
> in parallel with doing it on a VM running Ubuntu (the VM already  
> "won" this competition, but I'm still working on the OSX side).
> Ubuntu provides a "nice and simple" setup / configuration that  
> doesn't require a lot of in-depth knowledge of Linux (unless you  
> want to go there).  Setting up OE/BB inside the VM is as simple as  
> following the instructions on the Wiki < 
> gowiki/OpenMoko/OpenEmbedded/SettingUpOEForUbuntu > ... really, I  
> just did it last night running Ubuntu 6.10 on a VM on an Intel- 
> iMac.  I created 'nano', and can copy it to my local ARM-based  
> TS-7300, and it runs just fine ... very cool!
> Being an OSX user myself, both at home and school, I'm happy to  
> provide whatever reasonable assistance I can to other OSX users.   
> While I don't have a lot of experience under Linux, I do have  
> plenty of experience on various Unix flavors and MacOS from 5 to  
> current - both as programmer and user (from setting up the MMU to  
> device drivers to CLI applications to GUIs).
> Good luck! - MLD

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