Sorry... Re: And please use a emailclients with working "Reference" Re: gmail users CC'ing

hank williams hank777 at
Tue Feb 13 19:34:10 CET 2007


Your test doesnt work when you are looking at messages that you
yourself sent. Messages you send from a given thread are always in the
same thread, but messages from someone else from the same thread with
a different subject are not put in the same thread, and that is the
problem on the list.


On 2/13/07, Reid Thompson <Reid.Thompson at> wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 12:00 -0500, hank williams wrote:
> > On 2/13/07, Reid Thompson <Reid.Thompson at> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 10:02 -0500, hank williams wrote:
> > > > hmm... guess those Google guys aren't smart enough to handle mail "the
> > > > better way". With your way, even if you change the subject it would be
> > > > part of the same thread.
> > > I believe that is proper --> to remain part of the same thread.  To
> > > create a new thread, start with a new email -- do not reply to a current
> > > thread with an altered subject.
> > >
> >
> > Well, it depends on how you define "proper". Again, to me this is
> > about user interface, and what is expected behavior. I dont think your
> > average (non-programmer) would think that a
> >  new message with a
> a new message no, which is what I said to do if you want to create a new
> thread -- but the conversation was about replying to a previous message
> and changing the subject expecting it to start a new thread -- which
> does not work.
> > different subject would be in the same thread.
> My gmail account does this, so anyone using gmail should expect it after
> seeing it occur -- see below.
> Replies to emails with changed subject show in the same
> thread/conversation, not new or separate ones.
> >  More importantly, the
> > interface revolution in gmail is the grouping of threads by subject.
> Not based on what I just did ( subject threading may be a fallback
> mechanism as mentioned earlier -- evolution has this 'option' also).
> > This is one of the reasons that so many people love gmail. It makes
> > what used to be a much more complicated thing much easier to follow. I
> > think people are voting with their email accounts and by this measure
> > people in mailing lists *love* the gmail design. The high percentage
> > of gmail use vs aol or hotmail or outlook or whatever is no
> > coincidence.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Hank
> In my gmail account:
> create a message with subject "Test Thread" - body "Test Thread".  Send
> it.  Reply to it from gmail account, Change the subject to "Test Thread
> Two" - body to "test thread Two", Send it.  Reply to Test Thread Two,
> Change subject to "Test Thread three" - body to "Test Thread 3", Send
> it.  View Test Thread Three,,, see that Google 'threaded' all three
> messages as one thread/conversation, not three separate ones.

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