R: Camera and MMS
lefko at sbcglobal.net
Sat Feb 17 14:40:00 CET 2007
I went to Honeywell in Minnesota once for a meeting. At the security
booth inside the building there were two big signs . The first said "No
Guns" the second said "No Cameras". I had two thoughts. The first was
I'm glad I left my guncamera at home. The second was what goes on here
on a Saturday night? After mentioning this in the meeting I was relayed
some stories that made me believe the cold gets to people...
Camera Phones are becoming more and more of an issue. I have not seen
one take a good picture yet either.
> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:19:26 +0100
> From: Andreas Kaeser <openmoko at InSecTeam.de>
> t3st3r wrote:
>> > Andreas Kaeser wrote:
>>> >> ...
>>> >> Well, as much as I would like a camera in my all-in-one gadget, it would
>>> >> be prohibitive for my every day use: in my working environment anything
>>> >> capable of picture recording is strictly disallowed. So I wouldn't be
>>> >> able to use Neo1973 :-(
>> > So what? Jailed people are often disallowed to use mobile phones at all.
>> > Should mobile phones manufacturers to give up and stop producing mobile
>> > phones at all then?
> Of course not. But you missed my point. I'm looking for a way to use the
> NEO It's a car manufacturer's development plant.
>> > [off] I'm amazed how easily people are giving up their legal rights in
>> > favor of semi-illegal corporate policies (or similar stuff) which are
>> > trashing human rights to the hell. As for me, I'll never work in such
>> > jail-like environment. Do you want to have open and free gadget ... but
>> > still have jail-like job?Amazing!Freedom is not just a word - it's way
>> > of life. Think about it. Twice. [/off]
> Yes, you are right. I'm horrified, how many people give away real human
> rights like free speech or privacy for a few Euros or for pseudo security.
> However, in this very situation, I don't consider it my legal rights to
> take photos of not-yet-released cars and their development details.
>>> >> I guess people working under such conditions are less than 10% of total
>>> >> population, so maybe we won't be considered too much. A pluggable camera
>>> >> would definitely help!
>> > As for me, I will never use pluggable camera.Its a separate thing which
>> > can be lost, forgotten and broken easily (the plug itself is a weak
>> > place).And it reduces device usability to the hell.Early mobiles
>> > attempted to use pluggable cameras but it looks like this attempt has
>> > miserably failed.It has been incredible unpopular idea and died without
>> > success.However I have nothing against the following: two models, one
>> > with camera and one without it. However I have no idea how hard and
>> > costly this to implement (usually, developing 2 devices costs more but
>> > probably dropping features is relatively easy - just do not solder some
>> > parts on same PCB and use a bit altered case).
> Of course high volume production of an all-in-one gadget often will be cheaper
> than the production of 50 different models with some different combination of
> parts missing in each of them.
> And yes, plugs usually are less reliable than solid soldering joints.
> I'm happy to have seen more and maybe better ideas to deal with this situation.
>> > P.S. Of course you can safely ignore my dumb mumblings but before doing
>> > so, consider that I closely dealt with mobile phones internals since
>> > 2000 and usability is my primary job.
> Oh great. Then you know _a lot_ more about mobiles than me. And in case you
> should change your mind about some "No Camera Allowed"-situations, you might
> come up with even far better ideas to deal with said situations than we have
> already seen :-)
>> > 2ALL: sorry for semi-flaming message.
> At least _I_ don't mind. Far from it! I'm happy to enlarge my own view by
> getting introduced to more facts and to more points of personal view.
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