RFC: Public targets having a big potential: Engineering schools

[Steven **]

While I do think engineering schools would be a good target, some of
your restrictions are unnecessary and some of your assumptions on the
usage are out-of-sync.

I graduated from an engineering only college a little less than 2
years ago.  We didn't have to buy programmable calculators.  We had to
buy laptops.  These laptops had to run Maple and Matlab for the math
courses.  These laptops had built-in Wifi.  We used the laptops during
tests.  The professors weren't running any monitoring systems to
ensure we weren't connected to the Internet.  Maybe my school just
expected more of the students, but everything was based on the honor
system.

I don't think math professors would be a good target.   I just don't
think the Neo has enough processing power to meet the needs of math
applications.  The embedded professors and Civils would probably be
interested though.

-Steven

On 2/17/07, kkr <kkr22.mpt56 at bluewin.ch> wrote:
> Numerous applications expressed previously (on this mailling list) are
> possible only if a big density of device exists.
>
>
> When I've made my engineering school, we had to all buy a programmable
> calculator (HP48, Sharp or Casio). In general, professor recommends the
> one that they have. If the neo could replace this one, it makes us,
> close to 1000 neo (1000 students) in the same building.
>
> With such a density of devices, about which all the owners know how to
> program, this gives us an environment privileged to see appearing of
> numerous original applications.
>
> So, I guess that Engineering schools would be a good place to promote
> the neo.
>
>
>
> So that this one can replace the calculator, we need:
>
> 1. A scientific calculator application is required
>
> 2. A programming language (Basic or C) that can be use in standalone
>    case (with no PC).
>
> 3. It must be able to be used during the examinations:
>    For it, the functions of communications (GSM, bluetooth) must be
>    able to be blocked or watched:
>    a. GSM: It must be able to boot without SIM card
>    b. Bluetooth must be watched by the teacher during the exam
>       (e.g.: The teacher's neo ping continously the bluetooth bdaddr of
>       all neo's students, and if it receive one respond, the student
>       is eliminated)
>
>
>
> If it is possible (see 1, 2 and 3), we only have to convince some key
> professor (e.g. by subsidizing a few of them - less than 5 or 10), and
> the students will all have to buy one.
>
> e.g. key teachers:
> - mathematics (arguments: C language and scientific calculator)
> - data transmission and telecom (argument: GSM, GPRS, bluetooth)
> - real-time embedded systems
> - civil engineering and environmental engineering (arguments GPS and
>   GPRS)
> - microprocessor
> - electronics
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: kkr <kkr22.mpt56 at bluewin.ch>
> To: community at lists.openmoko.org
> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 01:26:18 +0100
> Subject: Re: "Automatic Updates Notification" for the Neo?
> Le samedi 17 février 2007 à 00:53 +0100, Marcel de Jong a écrit :
> > As Cliff already mentioned, it uses a tool called ipkg which is very
>
> I sent my second email before receiving the Cliff answer (Which in
> summer posted before my answer ;-)
>
> > much alike Debian's (and Ubuntu's) apt-get system. And I'm sure you
> > can set it to check the 'repositories' or 'feeds' (databases where the
> > applications are distributed from) for the latest updates every time
> > you connect it to the web via usb/bluetooth. (most likely done via a
> > GUI but also with support for CLI; at least GPE and OPIE use the same
> > system, and have both GUI and CLI)
> >
> > I have little experience with Fedora, so I don't know the similes with
> > their system, but I'm sure it's very similar.
> >
> > ---
> > Marcel de Jong
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry at piermont.com>
> To: kkr <kkr22.mpt56 at bluewin.ch>
> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:37:03 -0500
> Subject: Re: RFC: Public targets having a big potential: Engineering schools
>
> kkr <kkr22.mpt56 at bluewin.ch> writes:
> > So that this one can replace the calculator, we need:
> >
> > 1. A scientific calculator application is required
>
> I suspect gcalctool or the kde equivalent could be altered to the UI
> requirements of the Neo.
>
> --
> Perry E. Metzger                perry at piermont.com
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Florent THIERY" <fthiery at gmail.com>
> To: community at lists.openmoko.org
> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 02:17:10 +0100
> Subject: Re: "Automatic Updates Notification" for the Neo?
>
> > It should be.  The package manager used by OpenEmbedded (ipkg)
> > supports operations similar to yum and apt-get:
>
> Will there be an official/community repository?
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Stefan Schmidt <stefan at datenfreihafen.org>
> To: community at lists.openmoko.org
> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 02:36:21 +0100
> Subject: Re: "Automatic Updates Notification" for the Neo?
> Hello.
>
> On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 02:17, Florent THIERY wrote:
> > >
> > >It should be.  The package manager used by OpenEmbedded (ipkg)
> > >supports operations similar to yum and apt-get:
> >
> >
> > Will there be an official/community repository?
>
> 1. Official openmoko feed.
> 2. Feed with packages tested by openmoko developer.
> 3. Community feeds as much as you like.
>
> regards
> Stefan Schmidt
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Mike Hodson" <mystica at gmail.com>
> To: community at lists.openmoko.org
> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 20:07:55 -0700
> Subject: Re: openmoko articles
> Bloody gmail and their lack of 'reply to bloody list'
> Apoligies Michael, on the personal reply and now this repeat.
>
>  On 2/16/07, michael at michaelshiloh.com <michael at michaelshiloh.com> wrote:
>
>  > > Look for it on Digg - I think digg points to the gizmodo article,
> and anyone
>  > > can join digg and post comments.
>
>  That I shall!
>  Thanks for the heads up.
>
>  > Forgive my error. I think the troubling post was on engadget. At any
> rate, I
>  > think my comments are still valid in general, and we may see more posts
> like
>  > this that would be good to respond to.
>
>  Perhaps the original Engadget report was a bit negative, however, the
>  judging by the attitudes of gizmodo 'invited commenters' they seem to
>  have their heads turned around in a painful position, one which I will
>  leave you to guess. The actual gizmodo article was good.
>
>  Mike
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Dr. Suess" <radryan214 at gmail.com>
> To: community at lists.openmoko.org, mdejong at gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:15:08 -0600
> Subject: Re: Help Adding A Picture/Video Behind Incoming Call Screen
> >Do you mean something like this:
> >http://people.openmoko.org/sean/specifications/images/dialer_incoming.png
> >But I believe the images in those folders are just design
> >indications,so it is of course subject to change. ;-)
>
> Yes, but I would like to add a picture/video to the background instead
> of darkening what was being done. Are there any pictures of this
> without the labels so I could make a mockup?
>
> -ryan
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: michael at michaelshiloh.com
> To: Mike Hodson <mystica at gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 01:03:18 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: openmoko articles
>
>
>
> On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Mike Hodson wrote:
>
> > Bloody gmail and their lack of 'reply to bloody list'
> > Apoligies Michael, on the personal reply and now this repeat.
> >
> > On 2/16/07, michael at michaelshiloh.com <michael at michaelshiloh.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >  Look for it on Digg - I think digg points to the gizmodo article,
> > and anyone
> >> >  can join digg and post comments.
> >
> > That I shall!
> > Thanks for the heads up.
> >
> >>  Forgive my error. I think the troubling post was on engadget. At any
> rate,
> >>  I
> >>  think my comments are still valid in general, and we may see more posts
> >>  like
> >>  this that would be good to respond to.
> >
> > Perhaps the original Engadget report was a bit negative, however, the
> > judging by the attitudes of gizmodo 'invited commenters' they seem to
> > have their heads turned around in a painful position, one which I will
> > leave you to guess. The actual gizmodo article was good.
>
> Interesting observation I've made of a great many sites that allow comments
> (not just technical sites - this includes amazon book reviews, tools, etc.)
> is
> that the comments often comment on the preceding comment, and not on the
> main
> subject, so that if a comment takes an off-topic path, and if that comment
> generates a large number of follow up comments, a reader might get the
> impression that this off-topic path is somehow central to the main subject,
> whereas in fact it isn't.
>
> It bothers me but I don't think there is anything that can be done. Some
> threads end sooner if we don't respond.
>
> Michael
>
>
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