The actual release date of NEO1973

Jon Phillips jon at
Fri Jan 12 15:50:49 CET 2007

On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 09:22 -0500, Gervais Mulongoy wrote:
> I think we should create a To-Do list or a Wish List, so we can track
> the sort of features that would be nice to have in the phone. I think
> we should model this on

Is there a wiki on the openmoko site to work on this? Sean, this would
be great to capture these ideas.


> On 1/12/07, Robert Michel <openmoko at> wrote:
>         Salve Ole, *!
>         On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, Ole Tange wrote:
>         > What I would love to see, however, is a website where you
>         can pre-order,
>         > so you will be the first to get a phone.
>         I don't think that you have to fear that you will not 
>         be able to get one of the first phones - I'm quite shure
>         that being activ on this list with good ideas - and maybe
>         already writing some solutions count much more that to
>         be the first in a pre-order-db.
>         And the most of you should know the vapur-ware filewarker
>         The have taken down their "order now for the first release"
>         but I have big concerns when I such "Order now" pages for 
>         inovative products...
>         ;)
>         Release date
>         I'm happy that Sean and FIC does not anounce a fixed date
>         let us give them the freedom other device-projects does not
>         have - to take as much time as possible. I would not worry 
>         when it will be April or later :)
>         See how much of the first design of a IBM-PC or a Personal
>         PalmPilot is still used today.
>         Some small inexpensive or cost less improvements could
>         make the product much more stable or better usable: 
>         the last 5-10% perfectness where commercial developers
>         nearly never have the time for - because there is the
>         expo or the christmas-business for what the device must
>         be ready for...
>         And when the first devices are out, you can create a second 
>         generation with e.g. wifi, powered USB or USB2 - but smaller
>         changings that change the way to programm or to use the device
>         screen resolution, the way your touch screen work -
>         power saving (no good examples..) are not so good to do. 
>         See how similar the layout of the PalmPilots has been
>         - as far as I know all hacks and programms could be run
>         without modification till PalmOS 5.0
>         So I would love to see enough time for the developers to
>         get full sleep and a free weekend and come back to add
>         some "nice to have" instead of solving "must have" tasks
>         - care about battery loading (maybe a small capacitor..)
>           it could help also that data in RAM is not lost when 
>           the power was interrupted.
>             I saw a Windows PDA at my friends desk - oh - new?
>             He said - no, a borrowed PDA with navigation - but
>             I have lost all data in RAM because of power and now
>             I can't use the navigation, because I haven't the 
>             registration key and my partner can't find it now...
>           Palm Pilots have a reset - but no function to split
>           the RAM and reset only the system and try to recover
>           parts of the data. Being on the road and being lost 
>           when your mobile device lost it's data is not realy
>           smart.
>           So I found it important, that the Neo1973 could work
>           even without battery, just usb-powered.
>         - make sound quality even better with a better shielding 
>           or more nf(1-40.000 Hz) clean power supply for the audio
>           part
>         - adding an audio in jack
>         - some sensors
>         - little power for the USB to use USB Memory sicks
>           (and other people MP3-stick) without USB power supply 
>         - more nice things which the Neo1973 developers would
>           start think about when they have the freedom to do it
>         Ok it must not to much time - but Sean, when your team
>         deside the hardware design of the Neo1973 is ready, go 
>         to ask your team
>         - how would you design it, when you would have your
>           ideas and knowledge form the beginning?
>         - what would you like to add for a second version
>         - what would you like to add to the first version, 
>           when we take 2 or 4 more weeks?
>         :)
>         So I'm very happy that the first version will have BT
>         :))))))))))
>         Which kind of BT - version, class?
>         And can somebody explain me if the chip/hardware could 
>         limit the BT software/profile power, or would be everything
>         possible? like:
>         - stereo audio streaming (possible to or from the NEO?)
>         - multiple profiles simultanius? using BT keyboard and
>           BT headset at the same time? 
>         Cheers,
>         rob
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