community Digest, Vol 10, Issue 63

Greg Tada gregtada at
Sun Jan 21 07:08:04 CET 2007

Hey Sven,
I'm not saying that it's not important; what I'm asking is for a
little consideration. This is a dead horse. Do you think a single
subscriber hasn't heard this all before? Those who call it "GNU/Linux"
will continue to call it such, and those who call it "Linux" will do
the same. Let's move on to Moko.

If we're talking about freedom of speech, let's stop trying to set
policies about what we call it.

I'm going to follow my own advice and stop clogging up inboxes with
this particular subject. I think I've said enough.


> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Sven Gothel <sgothel at>
> To: community at
> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:43:56 -0700
> Subject: Re: Free Your Phone
> Well, religion or believe or whatever can create such a warfare
> is one important thing for sure - to be handled with care.
> I better skip those things here ;-)
> But it is a fact, that a running OSS box, leveraging the Linux kernel
> and the GNU tools and Xorg and .. well, it's a hard thing to name
> this box properly. So the FSF and many others came to the conclusion,
> or better compromise to name the 2 most important things, GNU + Linux,
> so - it is a GNU/Linux box, GNU first, because it came first,
> and actually .. where were we, if we didn't have the GNU toolchain ?
> Besides, if you don't like to discuss those things,
> why do you jump into this discussion in the first place ?
> This seems not very logical to me.
> And it is a fact as well, that such 'community' mailinglists
> shall follow the freedom of speech, as far as it is related
> to the project.
> This reminds me of the very honorable dude Theo de Raadt
> and the not so nice reasons for starting OpenBSD ;
> As you can see, things matter to people, even this 'evangelism' thing ;-)
> Have a good one
> Cheers, Sven
"Fate is for those too weak to determine their own destiny"

Kamrad Hamid

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