GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone)
dave at lab6.com
Mon Jan 22 21:34:48 CET 2007
On 22/01/07, David Schlesinger <David.Schlesinger at palmsource.com> wrote:
> >I like to be accurate and know what I am talking about, and I like
> >others to be too :-)
> It simply never ends, does it?
Well, this *is* the internet ;-)
> Feel entirely free to call it "GNU/Linux", "Bob/Linux", "Jim/Linux" or
> whatever you like, okay. But _please_ stop proselytizing.
Dude, why so prickly? I am not sure why this discussion is making you
so agitated..? We are having a discussion, and if you want it to stop,
just... stop? :-)
> Have you ever noticed how folks with a zealot-like position assume, that
> when you disagree with them, that it represents some failure of adequate
> (or maybe adequately _repeated_) explanation on their part...?
We disagree, and I for one am enjoying discussing how our perspectives
differ. I want to understand your perspective, but I don't because
I've heard and seen things that contradict it. I am presenting these,
and hoping you will explain why they are wrong. Instead of asking me
to shut up...
> I get it, okay? I disagree. Telling me that "GNU" is a "principal
> developer" doesn't make it so and opinions clearly vary here.
> So, why don't you let those of use who choose to use a more commonly
> accepted, no less accurate, and more generally understood name simply do
Does the popularity of an error makes it the truth?
What would you do if you heard someone say, "Australians speak American."?
I would want to suggest that in fact Australians speak English, and to
discuss the history and origin of Australia.
> I can just see some poor fellow asking a sales-droid what the actual
> difference is between "Linux" ("I've _heard_ of _that_!") and
> "So, it's something _different_ than Linux?"
> "Yes, it's more conducive to personal freedom and encourages community
That also wouldn't be accurate. The droid, refering to
wikipedia-stable, might instead say:
"So, it's something _different_ than Linux?"
"Well, not really. GNU/Linux is the whole system; Linux is one part of
the system, and it is a very important part, but it often gets
misunderstood as the whole system. If you refer to the whole system,
please call it GNU/Linux."
> "Does it make the phone _do_ anything different?"
> "Other than encouraging freedom, no."
> "Um, mm-kay... I realy just wanted a cell phone... Maybe I should get a
> Microsoft one instead; I've _heard_ of that. I don't what what this GNU
> stuff is, but I never heard of it, so I don't know whether it really
> works or not... Are you sure you don't have one that just runs
> "Sorry, nope. Ya _fascist._"
Now now, you are sailing close to Godwin's law :-)
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