community Digest, Vol 34, Issue 17
Michael Sersen
msersen at gmail.com
Tue Jul 3 18:01:35 CEST 2007
About custom case design for the Neo and beyond; I am very interested
in this idea. I have a cnc router at my disposal and can make custom
parts from materials such as Corian and exotic hardwoods and some soft
metals. I'd love to see some spec's, maybe .dwg's or .dxf files of
the current case, for measurments of stand-offs and such.
~ MAS
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> 1. Re: Package manager (Lalo Martins)
> 2. Re: Package manager (Hans van der Merwe)
> 3. Custom case designs... (Tim Newsom)
> 4. Why iPhone using AJAX was genius (Florent THIERY)
> 5. Re: Custom case designs... (ramsesoriginal)
> 6. Re: Package manager (Lalo Martins)
> 7. Re: GPS can work stand-alone (Re: Advertising/hype)
> (David Pottage)
> 8. Re: Custom case designs... (Ben Burdette)
> 9. Re: Why iPhone using AJAX was genius (Attila Csipa)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Lalo Martins <lalo.martins at gmail.com>
> To: community at lists.openmoko.org
> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 13:53:59 +0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Re: Package manager
> Also spracht Al Johnson (Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:23:56 +0100):
> > I would have thought ipkg would make more sense as it's already used by
> > most distros for handhelds, mainly because it has a smaller footprint
> > than dpkg/apt or rpm/yum.
>
> I was going to say that. ipkg is already installed on the moko image,
> and comes pre-configured to download packages from the net (but the
> repository is still empty, of course).
>
> best,
> Lalo Martins
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> From: Hans van der Merwe <hvdmerwe at sunspace.co.za>
> To: openmoko <community at lists.openmoko.org>
> Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:33:04 +0200
> Subject: Re: Package manager
>
> On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 13:53 +0000, Lalo Martins wrote:
> > Also spracht Al Johnson (Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:23:56 +0100):
> > > I would have thought ipkg would make more sense as it's already used by
> > > most distros for handhelds, mainly because it has a smaller footprint
> > > than dpkg/apt or rpm/yum.
> >
> > I was going to say that. ipkg is already installed on the moko image,
> > and comes pre-configured to download packages from the net (but the
> > repository is still empty, of course).
> >
> > best,
> > Lalo Martins
>
> Ah, great - just checking.
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Tim Newsom <cephdon at gmail.com>
> To: Openmoko <community at lists.openmoko.org>
> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 07:40:38 -0700
> Subject: Custom case designs...
> I have been thinking a little more about this and I struck upon an
> idea... What if you could buy a custom case with a custom message on
> it.
>
> I am not talking about painted messages but letters and shapes cast into
> the plastic shell.
> Raised, sunk, custom fonts etc.
>
> Naturally we can't just replicate the exact neo1973 shell without
> permission, but maybe something like it and removing the FIC logo
> (unless we get permission to use it) or the like.
>
> This is more of a vanity thing than a functional thing.. But what do
> people think of it?
> --Tim
>
>
>
>
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> From: "Florent THIERY" <fthiery at gmail.com>
> To: OpenMoko <community at lists.openmoko.org>
> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 16:43:44 +0200
> Subject: Why iPhone using AJAX was genius
> Quite self-explanatory:
> http://www.rev2.org/2007/07/02/top-25-web-apps-for-the-iphone/
>
> I'm not saying "we have to do the same", but if we manage complete
> compatibility... (which should be possible as soon as we have a
> functional gdk webkit port -- which is almost there).
>
> An interesting aspect for OpenMoko is to use this together (but
> sandboxed) with private server apps that offer http interfaces (ssh
> over http tunnel or wifi/bluetooth direct home connection) on an
> NSLU2/WL-500G like companion device.
>
> And we'll even stil have the possibility of traditional apps... What a
> short development time for so many features !
>
> Cheers
>
> Florent
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: ramsesoriginal <ramsesoriginal at gmail.com>
> To: community at lists.openmoko.org
> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 16:52:09 +0200
> Subject: Re: Custom case designs...
> First they wil lthink that it's a rip-off of the iPod customisation.
> Then they will think that it's not useful, not functional, only thrown-away
> money.
> Then they will see how cool it looks at their buddy's neo, and will buy one
> for themselves ;)
>
> On 7/3/07, Tim Newsom <cephdon at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have been thinking a little more about this and I struck upon an
> > idea... What if you could buy a custom case with a custom message on
> > it.
> >
> > I am not talking about painted messages but letters and shapes cast into
> > the plastic shell.
> > Raised, sunk, custom fonts etc.
> >
> > Naturally we can't just replicate the exact neo1973 shell without
> > permission, but maybe something like it and removing the FIC logo
> > (unless we get permission to use it) or the like.
> >
> > This is more of a vanity thing than a functional thing.. But what do
> > people think of it?
> > --Tim
> >
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Lalo Martins <lalo.martins at gmail.com>
> To: community at lists.openmoko.org
> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:00:41 +0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Re: Package manager
> Also spracht Hans van der Merwe (Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:33:04 +0200):
> > On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 13:53 +0000, Lalo Martins wrote:
> >> ... ipkg is already installed on the moko image,
> >> and comes pre-configured to download packages from the net (but the
> >> repository is still empty, of course).
> >
> > Ah, great - just checking.
>
> No, but still, you have a good point; a GUI front-end would be better.
> The gpe-package project looks nice, I don't know if it needs to be
> "MokoIzed" though (shouldn't be too hard if it does). Also, I haven't
> actually installed it, so I don't know how good is the search facility --
> which IMHO is essential for something like that.
>
> best,
> Lalo Martins
> --
> So many of our dreams at first seem impossible,
> then they seem improbable, and then, when we
> summon the will, they soon become inevitable.
> -----
> personal:
> http://lalo.hystericalraisins.net/
> technical:
> http://www.hystericalraisins.net/
> GNU: never give up freedom http://www.gnu.org/
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> From: "David Pottage" <david at electric-spoon.com>
> To: "Niels L. Ellegaard" <niels.ellegaard at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 16:04:28 +0100 (BST)
> Subject: Re: GPS can work stand-alone (Re: Advertising/hype)
>
> On Tue, July 3, 2007 2:33 pm, Niels L. Ellegaard wrote:
>
> > On a related note I think that Slashdot once had a story about a
> > (bluetooth based??) Japanese dating gadget that worked in a similar
> > fashion. They had to buy the gadget, encode their preferences, and
> > then wait for the unexpected buzz of finding a perfect match. They
> > must have used some kind of encoding to prevent abuse, but I am not
> > sure how it worked.
>
> Nokia have software to do that with their S60 smartphones. I don't think
> it has a large enough user base to be useful. (even though there are ~100
> million compatible phones out there).
>
> http://europe.nokia.com/A4144923
>
> > On an even less related note it could be fun to keep a log-file of the
> > wifi phones that stay in your vicinity for more than an hour (ignoring
> > public transport). Then your phone can tell you whether or not you
> > have met a given person before. Perhaps you can use data from the log
> > file to query friends for further information or a vcard. This idea
> > might require a lot of storage and a way to filter out routers, but it
> > could lead to some fun.
>
> I think if you are going to do that, you would be better off doing it with
> Bluetooth, as there are many more BT devices out there, and most people
> leave BT switched on, as it does not drain the battery much.
>
> --
> David Pottage
>
> Error compiling committee.c To many arguments to function.
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>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ben Burdette <bburdette at comcast.net>
> To: Tim Newsom <cephdon at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:02:26 -0700
> Subject: Re: Custom case designs...
> Case modding for phones, cool. You could have one machined out of
> aluminum, and as long as the FIC hardware doesn't change too much over
> the years, you could keep updating it with the latest boards. Assuming
> that you could order the boards from FIC without the case, or are
> willing to buy and discard. If someone comes up with a nice aluminum
> case design, there are sites where machinists bid on such things - a
> group of people could commission an order of replacement cases. The
> company I work for gets complex sensor cases made for about 150$ each in
> small batches. That said, carbon fiber would be cool too, though I
> don't know much about what it would take to fabricate such a case for a
> phone.
>
> Tim Newsom wrote:
> > I have been thinking a little more about this and I struck upon an
> > idea... What if you could buy a custom case with a custom message on it.
> >
> > I am not talking about painted messages but letters and shapes cast
> > into the plastic shell.
> > Raised, sunk, custom fonts etc.
> >
> > Naturally we can't just replicate the exact neo1973 shell without
> > permission, but maybe something like it and removing the FIC logo
> > (unless we get permission to use it) or the like.
> >
> > This is more of a vanity thing than a functional thing.. But what do
> > people think of it?
> > --Tim
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Attila Csipa <plists at prometheus.org.yu>
> To: community at lists.openmoko.org
> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 17:03:13 +0200
> Subject: Re: Why iPhone using AJAX was genius
> On Tuesday 03 July 2007 16:43, Florent THIERY wrote:
> > over http tunnel or wifi/bluetooth direct home connection) on an
> > NSLU2/WL-500G like companion device.
>
> Apropos NSLU2, some time ago I made a couple of industrial-style data
> collecting NSLU2-s which have usb Wifi and/or a GM862 gsm/gprs module
> attached to them via serial port and some mass storage on USB. This is
> roughly the functionality of a Neo, which could do all of this and some
> more.
> Would it be possible on the long run to get OEM versions of the Neo1973,
> like, without case/microSD/power adapter/battery/etc (possibly even without
> display), just the finished PCB with components ?
>
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