Again: Advertising thoughts

Jeff Andros jeff at
Tue Jul 17 03:50:06 CEST 2007

On 7/16/07, Giles Jones <giles.jones at> wrote:
> I can't answer for jonathon, but there are many ways to deal with it.
> Groups, timeline (recently contacted people), searches (enter partial
> name), visual search (photo contacts), male/female, region/city, hell
> you could even plot them on a map and touch a city (I've been using
> my Nintendo Wii too much lol).

I really like this contextual approach(maybe it means you need to use your
wii more? ) I can think of a lot of times where I was trying to remember
someone's name, plus it would help when you're looking back through your
phonebook, and you've got a lot of people who you don't know who they are
(I've got a few that I remember were important, but can't for the life of me
remember why)

A few of the above have never been implemented in any device, I just
> think they're good ideas :)
> >   I don't altogether understand the
> > rationale of insisting on
> > fingers when there are so many pixels which can present easily read
> > detail.
> Styluses get dropped, fall apart etc. Have you ever bought an mp3
> player that used a stylus? nope, yet you manage to navigate through
> music with one.

To try to bring everyone together, isn't this what the spinner is for? if
you cart around your stylus, or are really precise with your thumbnail, you
can touch the contact you want, otherwise, just scroll with the spinner ala

> Also I don't understand why there is so much emphasis on a
> > mass market which is already well catered
> > for; possibly to the detriment of the niche market which wants a lot
> > of functionality fom the
> > device. This little phone should be able to replace the laptop a lot
> > of the time, taking notes
> > in meetings for example (which i already do on my phone, small and
> > above all quiet.)
> > The improvement with the neo will be the easy transfer of such files
> > to the PC(linux).
> It's called being ambitious and making a difference. The same could
> be said about Linux but there's a lot of people who want to see it
> have greater marketshare. The greater marketshare the easier it is to
> convince hardware vendors to provide Linux support.

you really think the mass market is well catered to?   Personally, I think
they just put up with a lot of crap from their cellphones because "that's
just how phones are".  I was told by a t-mobile(then voicestream) service
person that since my old nokia was like a "little computer" I could expect
to re-boot it regularly (I tried to explain the falsehood there... then I
walked away).  It's not the mass market that's catered to, it's the telecom
operators.  Putting on my pragmatic hat, if we open this up to the mass
market, make it something everyone wants, we get the money to make more
devices: Imagine where the apple newton would be if they'd had the cash to
keep evolving... Sean is a really good guy, but I don't think he's willing
to keep pouring his money into this for years, putting himself into the
poorhouse, and his employees with him, just because he has a really cool
device... our little community just isn't enough to keep a hardware company

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