[SVHMPC] concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

kenneth marken k-marken at online.no
Tue Jun 5 14:55:56 CEST 2007

Bradley Hook wrote:
> A possible solution for this has been discussed under an accessibility
> thread. The Maestro is a simple (yet effective) clip-on cover for
> PocketPCs. There are a few different versions of it, which work with
> various different brands and models of PocketPCs. Check out a picture
> at:
> http://www.engadget.com/2004/07/01/the-maestro-visuaides-pocket-pc-for-the-blind/
> The device is simply real buttons that, when pressed, place pressure on
> a specific portion of the underlaying touchscreen. Real tactile feedback
> without any hardware modifications to the underlaying device. A software
> UI written to coincide with the specific button pattern is the only
> thing needed. You also get the advantage of very specific pressure
> points, allowing you to cram more "hot" areas into the UI than when
> using direct finger input.

i could have sworn that sonyericsson did something similar for a numpad 
with their P800...

> Now, what would be novel and cool for the Neo is if we could design a
> clip-on device that was also mostly (or completely) transparent, so the
> screen could be visible while still providing the tactile interface.
> Keeping some of the various disabilities in mind while designing the Neo
> & OpenMoko could really make it a hit in this sector. Pretty much every
> phone solution out there for the blind is a real hack job, a system
> capable of catering directly to these folks would be welcome. (FYI, I
> work at a school for the blind).
> ~Bradley
> Chris Palmer wrote:
>> Interesting ideas, but I'm not sure that any adequately handle the
>> tactile needs of a touch typist.  Without looking at the keys, I can
>> feel the nubs on the home keys on my phone's mini qwerty to get lined up
>> again.  I also have the same concern with using a laser projected
>> keyboard (even tho potentially high on the coolness scale).  With just a
>> big flat surface then there's no way to keep you lined up on your keys
>> at speed.  I type pretty fast on my mini qwerty.  All my personal email
>> for the last few years have been 99.9% written on this thing, including
>> this one.
>> -Chris
>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 2:10 pm, Jon Phillips wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2007-06-02 at 13:35 -0700, Matthew S. Hamrick wrote:
>>>>  Well... for a while I was thinking about implanting a strong magnet
>>>>  under the skin in one of my fingers to detect alternating current.
>>>>  There are a few people out there who have done this and they say they
>>>>  can feel a very mild wiggle when the magnet comes near a wire carrying
>>>>  AC. It might be possible to detect the current going through the
>>>>  touchscreen as you make contact with it.
>>>>  But that's probably not a mainstream solution.
>>> That sounds like a stelarc solution:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stelarc
>>> What about a glove or thimble that you could put on your finger?
>>> How much does vibration tech. kill the battery on phones?
>>> Some type of current detection sounds interesting...
>>> Jon
>>>>  On Jun 2, 2007, at 1:11 PM, Jon Phillips wrote:
>>>>  > Yes, it seems pretty clear that screens are the way forward rather
>>>>  > than
>>>>  >
>>>>  > moving parts. I've seen a few solutions to the tactile feedback
>>>>  > issue,
>>>>  >
>>>>  > with the main being have the phone vibrate slightly upon key press,
>>>>  >
>>>>  > along with sounds.
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Matthew (and others), have you heard of others?
>>>>  >
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