[SVHMPC] concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

[Peter A Trotter]

On 05/06/07, kenneth marken <k-marken at online.no> wrote:
>
> Bradley Hook wrote:
> > A possible solution for this has been discussed under an accessibility
> > thread. The Maestro is a simple (yet effective) clip-on cover for
> > PocketPCs. There are a few different versions of it, which work with
> > various different brands and models of PocketPCs. Check out a picture
> > at:
> >
> http://www.engadget.com/2004/07/01/the-maestro-visuaides-pocket-pc-for-the-blind/
> >
> > The device is simply real buttons that, when pressed, place pressure on
> > a specific portion of the underlaying touchscreen. Real tactile feedback
> > without any hardware modifications to the underlaying device. A software
> > UI written to coincide with the specific button pattern is the only
> > thing needed. You also get the advantage of very specific pressure
> > points, allowing you to cram more "hot" areas into the UI than when
> > using direct finger input.
> >
>
> i could have sworn that sonyericsson did something similar for a numpad
> with their P800...


They certainly did. was pretty successful as well. They continued the idea
into the newer models as well, even started including more, smaller buttons.
I t was part of a flipper that had a sensor on so the the phone could detect
when it was in place. It then adjusted the touchscreen area behind
accordingly.

I did meet someone who used it a lot and it had left little dimples in the
touchscreen. Not that it bothered him since he nearly always used the flip
bit.


> Now, what would be novel and cool for the Neo is if we could design a
> > clip-on device that was also mostly (or completely) transparent, so the
> > screen could be visible while still providing the tactile interface.
> >
> > Keeping some of the various disabilities in mind while designing the Neo
> > & OpenMoko could really make it a hit in this sector. Pretty much every
> > phone solution out there for the blind is a real hack job, a system
> > capable of catering directly to these folks would be welcome. (FYI, I
> > work at a school for the blind).
> >
> > ~Bradley
> >
> > Chris Palmer wrote:
> >> Interesting ideas, but I'm not sure that any adequately handle the
> >> tactile needs of a touch typist.  Without looking at the keys, I can
> >> feel the nubs on the home keys on my phone's mini qwerty to get lined
> up
> >> again.  I also have the same concern with using a laser projected
> >> keyboard (even tho potentially high on the coolness scale).  With just
> a
> >> big flat surface then there's no way to keep you lined up on your keys
> >> at speed.  I type pretty fast on my mini qwerty.  All my personal email
> >> for the last few years have been 99.9% written on this thing, including
> >> this one.
> >>
> >> -Chris
> >>
> >> On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 2:10 pm, Jon Phillips wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 2007-06-02 at 13:35 -0700, Matthew S. Hamrick wrote:
> >>>>  Well... for a while I was thinking about implanting a strong magnet
> >>>>  under the skin in one of my fingers to detect alternating current.
> >>>>  There are a few people out there who have done this and they say
> they
> >>>>  can feel a very mild wiggle when the magnet comes near a wire
> carrying
> >>>>  AC. It might be possible to detect the current going through the
> >>>>  touchscreen as you make contact with it.
> >>>>
> >>>>  But that's probably not a mainstream solution.
> >>> That sounds like a stelarc solution:
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stelarc
> >>>
> >>> What about a glove or thimble that you could put on your finger?
> >>>
> >>> How much does vibration tech. kill the battery on phones?
> >>>
> >>> Some type of current detection sounds interesting...
> >>>
> >>> Jon
> >>>
> >>>>  On Jun 2, 2007, at 1:11 PM, Jon Phillips wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  > Yes, it seems pretty clear that screens are the way forward rather
> >>>>  > than
> >>>>  >
> >>>>  > moving parts. I've seen a few solutions to the tactile feedback
> >>>>  > issue,
> >>>>  >
> >>>>  > with the main being have the phone vibrate slightly upon key
> press,
> >>>>  >
> >>>>  > along with sounds.
> >>>>  >
> >>>>  >
> >>>>  > Matthew (and others), have you heard of others?
> >>>>  >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>  _______________________________________________
> >>>>  OpenMoko community mailing list
> >>>>  community at lists.openmoko.org
> >>>>  http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
> >>> --
> >>> Jon Phillips
> >>>
> >>> San Francisco, CA
> >>> USA PH 510.499.0894
> >>> jon at rejon.org
> >>> http://www.rejon.org
> >>>
> >>> MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto
> >>> Jabber Chat: rejon at gristle.org
> >>> IRC: rejon at irc.freenode.net
> >>>
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> OpenMoko community mailing list
> >> community at lists.openmoko.org
> >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OpenMoko community mailing list
> > community at lists.openmoko.org
> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> OpenMoko community mailing list
> community at lists.openmoko.org
> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20070605/e7c8ab17/attachment.htm