Gphone and 850, perspectives

Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano monto84 at
Thu Nov 8 16:19:36 CET 2007

admin at ha scritto:
> In this case it is a very valid issue and definitely not a complaint 
> or a whine.
> It basically tanks one of the largest consumer bases and it tanks my 
> project in my company until I find something else.
Well the man at FIC (Michael) said that this issue is being evaluated, 
i'm not associated with fic in any way so anything i'm writing is 
because i've read the mails coming from this mailing list.

> You left out one important part in your mail below.
No, i've left anything because the subject of this mail is regarding the 
850MHz issue, GPS is not involved with it.
> Will GPS work without trouble, is it in any way affected by the 
> bandwidth issue.
> I would surely think not, but if y0ou want to market this to someone 
> as a PDA only, then definitely give the complete information sucha as 
> include GPS usability in NA.
Updates? they are told to us from Michael and there is a wiki page for 
them, so if you want to make a business project NEO based you have to 
keep in mind that it's still in development and something could go 
wrong, the new version (GTA02) will have more hardware like wifi and 
openmoko is quite usable now, but i don't know if it's so stable. The 
OpenMoko is free software, so you have to read the license  saying 
something like "if it works ok, if it don't fix it yourself or pay 
someone to fixit for you", so i have to say to be careful doing this 
choice. Good software and i think i'll enjoy it on the NEO (trying the 
qemu versions) but this is from a user/programmer/liunx 
fan/geek/everything you want point of view. From a business point of 
view you have to consider a lot of factor so you have to wait a stable 
release first and get all the updates on that: software firmware 
hardware issues.... (i'm doing it for the NEO just to see which are the 

I've wrote that mail only to clarify the situation beacuse anyone was 
saying the same thing. I'll buy the NEO, i'll be happy if it will be a 
quad band phone, but i don't really mind if it'll be a triband phone 
because where i live this is not a problem. Thinking about myself only? 
Maybe, but i really care about a NEO which will work fine in my 
conuntry, if i have to wait for another revision or two to let this 
phone be full quad band to let it working well in the north america, 
i'll be happy to wait, no problem. Anything I want is a good device that 
work fine, possibly in any country with a GSM compilant network.

I've made a mistake saying that the NEO isn't working with 1900MHz, it's 
only not working with the 850MHz one

(hope to be useful and if this email seems not too polite is because of 
my english)


> Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano wrote:
>> So, ok, the NEO does NOT support 850/1900 MHz band, this is an issue, 
>> FIC is informed of that and i think that they are evaluating the 
>> possibilities to make it working, so please just stop crying at the 
>> list "my neo here isn't working..." ok, i understand the problem and 
>> i understand you, but receiving a tons of similar mail is boring. 
>> AFAIK FIC members read the list, and now are just considering some 
>> solutions (at least i hope).
>> So in conclusion, the replies at the FAQ on this issue are (forgive 
>> me if appear a bit rude but it's due to my english):
>> I live in north america, i have my NEO dev edition and i can't get 
>> the signal, what i can do?
>> sell your neo, it's an hardware/firmware/software issue, so it can't 
>> be fixed with a simple software upgrade
>> I need the 850 support should i buy the neo now?
>> No you don't have to until you want a good pda whitout the 
>> possibility to make phone calls
>> I live in NA and i usually stay in my big city, will the neo get the 
>> signal?
>> May be, it will probably get it but it's not assured, you can try to 
>> verify somehow if the bands supported by the neo are covering your area
>> What can i do to make the neo supporting those bands?
>> you can do nothing
>> What is FIC doing about this?
>> Don't know, i hope they are considering some solutions for this issue
>> Last but not least: which are the solutions which FIC is considering?
>> The solutions are:
>> 1) do nothing, at least  for the GTA02, maybe a fix in GTA03 or 
>> something similar
>> 2) produce 2 separate phone, 1 for the NA and another one for the 
>> Rest Of The World (identical phone except the capability to get the 
>> 850/1900 band INSTEAD the 900/1800 one)
>> 3) make a nice community poll to ask if the members can wait another 
>> 2 month (the time is just something I think) to redesign the hardware 
>> and fix the firmware so that we can have a full quad band phone)
>> The 3rd solution was not proposed but it's another way to solve the 
>> problem, honestly i don't mind about the quad band, i live in italy 
>> and i don't think i'll ever come to america, if i'll do that i'll use 
>> some other cheap phone, but i think that it's important for other 
>> community member to have it working in quad band way, so i'll wait if 
>> the community will decide to wait and obviously FIC will consider 
>> this solution.
>> Cya!
>> Pietro
>> P.S. We will wait for some FIC official solution.
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