Gphone and 850, perspectives

Alan McSwain alan at
Thu Nov 8 18:41:24 CET 2007


I think we are all terribly frustrated with the events of the last few  
days and I think this frustration is amplified by how much we all  
desire to see OpenMoko to succeed.

We all want the perfect smartphone.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 8, 2007, at 9:08 AM, "Randall Mason" <lists at> wrote:

> I want to apologize for this post.  This post has nothing to do with  
> community.  It is just insulting to many people.  I was wrong to  
> post this and I hope the people who felt insulted will accept my  
> apology.  Stupid posts like mine are something that just drive  
> people apart and that is NOT community.  Sometimes I wish I could  
> have never said something.  Now is one of those times.
> Randall
> On 11/8/07, Randall Mason <lists at> wrote:
> iPhone doesn't have GPS, so how does that fit your mythical project?
> GPS works in the US.  It is a US invention.  It is owned by the US.   
> It is run by the US.  We donate it to the world.  Why would it not  
> work in the US?  It works EVERYWHERE, that's why it's called Global  
> Positioning System.
> How are there so many people who know so little about cell phones,  
> GPS, and PDAs that claim to be supporting projects on this phone?   
> How did you convince your company to start these projects?  Why was  
> Michael's initial post saying that 850MHz is not supported because  
> of hardware layout not enough?  How do people decide that they want  
> quad band phones without knowing what they really are and why they  
> would want them (besides "wow, quad band works everywhere, right?  
> Great, I'll just get quad band so I never have to think!")?
> On 11/8/07, admin at <admin at> wrote:
> We were willing to wait for the commercial version to start our
> development, but if that is not going to be functional in the USA in
> remote areas like other cellphones, then it is lights-out for any
> possible future vendor here in the USA who want to incorporate this in
> to an existing product line.
> Thats a fact not a wine.
> I will get a development kit from Apple and live with it.
> Our products need a  gps/phone/computer system as an add-on and  it  
> cant
> wait past January 2008.
> If the GPS works great I will buy it as a PDA in future once it is  
> released.
> This morning the project using the NEO was canned, reasons are, ever
> shifting timetables and secondly,  too much risk when the rug is  
> pulled
> from under your feet by FIC suddenly not supporting US  frequency  
> bands,
> while there are other alternatives such as Iphone available with a
> development kit that  might meet our development scenario -- (about  
> just).
> Unfortunately rural access is crucial for our applications, so it just
> became a no-no.
> Anyway thanks to all for the input, and the NEO was a great idea till
> now, unfortunately it does not seem if it will be available in a  
> working
> state within the next year here in the USA.
> All of luck with OpenMoko.
> Bye.
> Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano wrote:
> > admin at ha scritto:
> >> In this case it is a very valid issue and definitely not a  
> complaint
> >> or a whine.
> >> It basically tanks one of the largest consumer bases and it tanks  
> my
> >> project in my company until I find something else.
> > Well the man at FIC (Michael) said that this issue is being  
> evaluated,
> > i'm not associated with fic in any way so anything i'm writing is
> > because i've read the mails coming from this mailing list.
> >
> >> You left out one important part in your mail below.
> > No, i've left anything because the subject of this mail is regarding
> > the 850MHz issue, GPS is not involved with it.
> Well, then add in the WIKI that GPS will still work in NA, else it  
> only
> makes matters worse for marketing and is misleading by not disclosing
> all the features that will work..
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