No Camera???

Nkoli coomac at
Mon Oct 8 20:51:16 CEST 2007

This camera vs non camera debate has been hashed out several times.
Many including myself support a camera option, but we have to make our
peace with the fact that it won't be happening with this version. It
is simply not possible without redesigning the case, which will only
add months and more expenses to the project. The only chance is if OM
comes out with some kind of camera attachment after the neo is
released. Considering how often this topic has popped up, I'm sure a
camera phone will be released at some point.. let's just hope it
happens next year.

On 10/8/07, Ajit Kallingal <kmajit at> wrote:
> Consumer demand is the reason Manufacturer's have been keeping the camera on
> the phone. And I have only seen them increasing the
> Pixel count with each new phone.
> There might not a be lot of consumers using the Contact as their only
> address book. But having it on the phone does help.
> Oft used features don't target the whole market, but it being available will
> motivate younger generation to get the "cool" Neo
> phone, Making Neo/OpenMoko a commercial success will also help wider
> acceptance, Keeping it restricted to the "Nerd" market will not
> help future demand by lowering prices.
> Ajit
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tilman Baumann" <tilman at>
> To: "List for OpenMoko community discussion" <community at>
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 7:41 AM
> Subject: Re: No Camera???
> thomas.cooksey at wrote:
> >> A survey on The Register (UK site) had camera at the lowest required
> >> feature with about 25% of people saying they need one and 25% saying
> >> the couldn't care less.
> >
> > Do you have a link? I can't seem to find it. Also, The Register's readers
> are hardly representative of the mobile phone market!
> Waht market?
> Forget about market. The Neo has no need to provide what the 'Marked' wants.
> The Marked is oversaturated by Nokia, Motorola and co.
> It would be completely sucidal to compete with them.
> Openmokos chance is to fill a niche that is not covered by all the big
> vendors.
> And that is freedom, the ability for unlimitless customisability and
> software that is written by nerds who love theyr software and written
> for nerds.
> >> the Neo is in no way a phone for the average. This marked is
> >> well served with the usual suspects.
> >
> > Ok, I was under the impression the Neo would be aimed at end users.
> Where is the conflict?
> Linux distros are for end users too. But clearly not for everyone.
> But that is ok.
> World domination can wait.
> It would be completely stupid to enter the marked with linux as a
> windows replacement for everyone as it would be stupid to enter the
> marked with the Neo as a replacement for all the nokia phones out there.
> You can just take all 'end user surveys' and stick them enywhere. They
> are irelevant. The question is, where can the Neo find its marked where
> the others are not.
> If a phone would be fine is non the less a valid question.
> But as it was said, there is non going to come for the next version.
> Because it is impossible to change the design so far. period.
> And i don't think that will be a killer.
> Later versions might have a phone. Maybe...
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