Qtopia coming for Neo1973

Ted Lemon mellon at fugue.com
Tue Sep 25 10:23:37 CEST 2007

On Sep 24, 2007, at 11:58 PM, Carlo E. Prelz wrote:
> QT is bound to C++. With GTK you can choose to program in C, or, if
> you really want to, in C++. With QT there is no way you can write your
> code in C.

This is an utterly pathetic excuse not to try something.   You don't  
have to become a C++ expert to try Qt.   Just take some existing Qt  
sample code, read it over, spend a half day reading a C++ book to  
figure out the stuff that doesn't make sense to you, and then code  
something up and see how it works.   If it really sucks, you'll  
know.   Without doing this, you simply aren't qualified to say  
anything about Qt.   So it's kind of mind-boggling that you were able  
to come up with so much prose to document your complete lack of  
knowledge on the topic.

> Also, Qtopia, by having no X server running in the background, makes
> it much more difficult for the average developer to bring his/her own
> window to the screen of the phone.

Case in point.   This simply isn't true.   You're saying things that  
you don't know to be true.   Why would you do that?

> I see OpenMoko as a developer-oriented phone/system.

I haven't even been able to get a build working.   It only builds on  
one platform - the build is so brittle that if you don't have that  
platform, you can't get it to go.   It's early days, so I don't count  
that against the development team, but this is another stunningly  
ignorant statement.   Have you actually tried to develop an app for  
Openmoko yet?

I've spent far more time trying to figure out the OpenMoko build  
system than I ever spent learning C++ so that I could write Qt code -  
I had my own Qt app, mostly written in C running under Qt in a matter  
of about a day and a half.

GTK may be better than Qt for some reason, but it's not because Qt is  
hard to use.

> (I also do like much more the graphical look of the OM proposed
> interface, but this is purely a matter of tastes)

Taste matters.   The OpenMoko UI in some places really does look  
better than the Qtopia UI.   There's no need to be bashful about  
preferring one design to the other because of the way it looks.

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