jptmoore at gmail.com
Mon Apr 7 10:40:45 CEST 2008
Thanks I will join this project and try and help out with testing etc.
There are suitable differences to make things interesting. I am
personally interested in the amounts of network traffic that are
generated with these approaches.
Looking forward to the code,
On 07/04/2008, Chia-I Wu <olv at openmoko.com> wrote:
> Hi John,
> There is an on-going work on projects.openmoko.org to provide similar
> The server is a jabber server. We use GEOLOC extension for location
> Locally, there is a daemon running. It works as a jabber client (and
> more). The UIs communicate with the daemon through dbus.
> On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 12:31:29PM +0100, john wrote:
> > Hi. I have been working on a D-Bus location-oriented service. I would
> > like to get some feedback to help direct the development and possibly
> > get some others involved. There are also some important non-technical
> > issues I would like to address.
> > Firstly, the D-Bus service is a server type process to look-up the
> > distance of other users of the system. It has a simple interface which
> > has been designed to be self-clocking. What this means is you need to
> > "ping" in location to update your local database of distance
> > information. One of the ideas behind this was to encourage updates
> > rather than be dominated by look-ups. A key feature of updating the
> > database in this system is that transferring the data required is done
> > in a very efficient manor. It actually "bit packs" the data. This
> > makes no assumptions about the quality or cost of the underlying
> > network.
> > So how would this be used? Well, I need some help with ideas and
> > clients. A simple use case would be to match users to your contacts
> > list and alert when they are within a certain distance. There are
> > other D-Bus location-oriented projects which could be integrated or
> > used in some way.
> > Are there any students working on GSOC projects in this area?
> > It is my intention to release all code including server. This brings
> > me to the non-technical issues. Although I don't have any problems
> > running server processes on my own hardware etc I think there are some
> > issues which need to be addressed. I understand the privacy concerns
> > of using these types of services and want to make this as open as
> > possible. Releasing the server code is fine but it does not actually
> > mean the "real" server is some other code doing something evil and
> > logging your data etc. This is where a trusted third party needs to be
> > involved. If these server processes were run from such a source it
> > would be a step in the right direction. How do others feel about this?
> > I know some people will never use these types of services full stop.
> > That is fine. I know others are interested in using them. I personally
> > am not interested in plotting on a map where I am. I don't mind
> > knowing that I am approximately close to something or someone and
> > vice-versa.
> > Anyway, I think D-Bus provides us with a good opportunity to develop
> > some cool applications in this mobile space. Interested in your
> > thoughts?
> > John (zedstar on IRC).
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