Charger? (was: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update)
thomas at gstaedtner.net
Mon Apr 14 13:01:29 CEST 2008
Well, you'll get used to it :)
USB-Charging is fine. You can use a standard usb-wallcharger as well as any
mini-usb cable or usb-carchargers and so on.
I have some devices that can only be loaded over usb and some who can also
use a proprietary charger. I mostly use usb, because I have a dozend
chargers for that.
I agree that a charger should be included, but at least we have to know if
Also there's still the fast_cccv "issue", means you have to explicitly allow
the device to charge at a high rate if the charger isn't a usb-host.
As there will be no charger included, I think this should be activated in
the official distribution by default to allow charging without hacks. It
should also be clear, that there is warranty for this method of charging, as
there is no officially allowed solution included.
On 4/14/08, Lowell Higley <higleylh at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think I'm going to have to completely disagree on this one. I RARELY
> plug anything into a computer to simply charge it. I'd venture almost
> never. The idea that I HAVE to plug a device into a computer to charge it
> is completely ridiculous to me. I'd bet my experience as a product marketer
> that consumers would feel similarly. My expectation of a cell phone (based
> on precedent) is that I get a wall charger with my phone. Even Apple didn't
> break this precedent with the iPhone. You can plug it into a cradle
> (connecting to a system), a wall charger, or a vehicle accessory charger.
> That being said, I don't know whether this "custom charger" is just a
> modified USB cable or an actual wall charger. Again, based on precedent, my
> expectation was that it was a wall charger. Thinking about it now I realize
> that perhaps that was not a good assumption to make.
> Just my 4 1/2 cents.
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Marcus Bauer <marcus.bauer at gmail.com>
> > On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 08:38 +0200, Erland Lewin wrote:
> > > 2008/4/14, steve <steve at openmoko.com>:
> > > 1. We have a custom charger that can fast charge the phone.
> > > 2. Standard usb chargers will work just fine.
> > >
> > > How long will charging the phone take with the fast charger vs. a
> > > normal charger?
> > >
> > > If a standard USB charger will take on the order of 12 hours (1200 mAh
> > > battery / 100 mA, probably more due <100% efficiency), that is really
> > > borderline of what sounds acceptable, if an overnight charge won't be
> > > enough to fully charge the phone.
> > There have been plenty of discussions about this on the lists and the
> > great news is that the Neo can use any USB charger.
> > I have a Neo 1973 and use it on a daily basis. The great thing is that
> > you don't need any special charger, you can use any $5 charger and it
> > works. There is a small program out there that can pop up a dialog
> > whenever it sees the Neo only charging at 100mA and asking if you want
> > to draw 500mA.
> > It really is a non issue. I have a couple of those chargers for
> > home/office/car/travel and they all work and charge plenty of other
> > devices too. IMHO a great design decision to use USB for charging.
> > Finally there is an end coming to have all these different chargers
> > around.
> > So I just can second Steve:
> > "2. Standard usb chargers will work just fine."
> > Marcus
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