Charger? (was: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update)

steve steve at
Mon Apr 14 20:59:22 CEST 2008

Thanks Lowell.


The phone will ship with a wall charger. 



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Subject: Re: Charger? (was: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update)


I think I'm going to have to completely disagree on this one.  I RARELY plug
anything into a computer to simply charge it.  I'd venture almost never.
The idea that I HAVE to plug a device into a computer to charge it is
completely ridiculous to me. I'd bet my experience as a product marketer
that consumers would feel similarly.  My expectation of a cell phone (based
on precedent) is that I get a wall charger with my phone.  Even Apple didn't
break this precedent with the iPhone.  You can plug it into a cradle
(connecting to a system), a wall charger, or a vehicle accessory charger.

That being said, I don't know whether this "custom charger" is just a
modified USB cable or an actual wall charger.  Again, based on precedent, my
expectation was that it was a wall charger.  Thinking about it now I realize
that perhaps that was not a good assumption to make.

Just my 4 1/2 cents.

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Marcus Bauer <marcus.bauer at>

On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 08:38 +0200, Erland Lewin wrote:
> 2008/4/14, steve <steve at>:
>           1. We have a custom charger that can fast charge the phone.
>           2. Standard usb chargers will work just fine.
> How long will charging the phone take with the fast charger vs. a
> normal charger?
> If a standard USB charger will take on the order of 12 hours (1200 mAh
> battery / 100 mA, probably more due <100% efficiency), that is really
> borderline of what sounds acceptable, if an overnight charge won't be
> enough to fully charge the phone.

There have been plenty of discussions about this on the lists and the
great news is that the Neo can use any USB charger.

I have a Neo 1973 and use it on a daily basis. The great thing is that
you don't need any special charger, you can use any $5 charger and it
works. There is a small program out there that can pop up a dialog
whenever it sees the Neo only charging at 100mA and asking if you want
to draw 500mA.

It really is a non issue. I have a couple of those chargers for
home/office/car/travel and they all work and charge plenty of other
devices too. IMHO a great design decision to use USB for charging.
Finally there is an end coming to have all these different chargers

So I just can second Steve:
"2. Standard usb chargers will work just fine."


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