Don't ship GTA02v5 without the rework

Federico Lorenzi florenzi at gmail.com
Sat Apr 19 06:48:07 CEST 2008


Wow, oh no. That means if I use the LEDs (assuming the use 3v or so) I
will use 50ma. How long exactly do you plan on keeping your LEDs on
for? Quite frankly I _don't_ care about this, and neither do most
people, because the LEDs aren't exactly a deal breaking feature.

Cheers,
Federico

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 3:57 AM, Kevin Dean <kevin at foreverdean.info> wrote:
> I have to say, I'm baffled by that sentiment. GTA02v5 is fully
>  functional, the only "problem" is that it's not as efficient as it
>  could be, just like every other product on the planet.
>
>  For those saying "wait another month" I've got a different arguement -
>  let's NOT hire people to make the changes, purchase the equipment
>  needed to do it. If a missing transistor is really upsetting someone
>  that much, the open nature of Openmoko works in your favor because you
>  can wait until the units you consider "defective" are sold out. I, for
>  one, don't want to pay the costs (and I will, if Openmoko decides to
>  wait and add the transistor for goodwill) that will be incurred and
>  spread over the rest of the product line. I'm QUITE happy to take a v5
>  and go along on my merry way.
>
>  It is quite possible to make your statement by NOT purchasing a v5
>  unit and waiting for a v6. Choosing to wait yourself, without passing
>  the delay and costs onto everyone else is the most ethical, polite way
>  to solve the problem.
>
>  -Kevin
>
>
>
>  On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Steven Le Roux <steven at le-roux.info> wrote:
>  > I totally agree with you.
>  >
>  > I understand everybody is happy to see the neo coming, but don't forget the
>  > goal :) : to provides the best free phones.
>  >
>  > It wouldn't be pleasant for us to by a phone, knowing there is a known issue
>  > with optimisation of  power consumption and LED stuff..
>  >
>  > I understand the rush ;) but we can wait...
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Ron K. Jeffries <rjeffries at gmail.com>
>  > wrote:
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > OpenMoko team:
>  > >
>  > > It's crazy to consider shipping the GTA02v5 without the rework
>  > > to solve the current leakage issue.
>  > >
>  > > Yes, people are REALLY anxious to get this phone. But shipping
>  > > a few thousand of units that do not meet spec on standby time
>  > > is a Bad Idea.
>  > >
>  > > pull up your socks and do the rework
>  > > if that delays launch by 30 days so be it.
>  > > besides the firmware will be better by then as well. ;)
>  > >
>  > > -ron jeffries.
>  > >
>  > > CONTEXT:
>  > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>  > > From: "Shawn Rutledge" <shawn.t.rutledge at gmail.com>
>  > > To: "List for Openmoko community discussion"
>  > <community at lists.openmoko.org>
>  > > Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:30:59 -0700
>  > > Subject: Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future
>  > Button and LED software spec)
>  > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
>  > > <quatrox at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > > > It sounds to me as the problem is easy for those of us that knows a
>  > little
>  > > > electronics. If I get one that leaks current, I will start soldering!
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > Does anybody know if the fix Werner is talking about, will be done for
>  > all
>  > > > GTA02v5 PCB's? If it really will be a fix for it, it will not be any
>  > problem
>  > > > at all.
>  > >
>  > > Yes maybe it can be fixed.  But is the fix documented yet?
>  > >
>  > > Another way to look at it: if the fix can be done without a PCB
>  > > change, then why not get the factory to do the rework (swapping
>  > > transistors or whatever) before they are shipped?  How much would it
>  > > cost to get that done in China?
>  > >
>  > > --
>  > > Ron K. Jeffries
>  > > http://blog.eronj.com
>  > > http://twitter.com/RonKJeffries
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
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