Don't ship GTA02v5 without the rework

Andrea Debortoli debortoland at gmail.com
Sat Apr 19 10:53:04 CEST 2008


2008/4/19, Kevin Dean <kevin at foreverdean.info>:
>
> I have to say, I'm baffled by that sentiment. GTA02v5 is fully
> functional, the only "problem" is that it's not as efficient as it
> could be, just like every other product on the planet.
>
> For those saying "wait another month" I've got a different arguement -
> let's NOT hire people to make the changes, purchase the equipment
> needed to do it. If a missing transistor is really upsetting someone
> that much, the open nature of Openmoko works in your favor because you
> can wait until the units you consider "defective" are sold out. I, for
> one, don't want to pay the costs (and I will, if Openmoko decides to
> wait and add the transistor for goodwill) that will be incurred and
> spread over the rest of the product line. I'm QUITE happy to take a v5
> and go along on my merry way.
>
> It is quite possible to make your statement by NOT purchasing a v5
> unit and waiting for a v6. Choosing to wait yourself, without passing
> the delay and costs onto everyone else is the most ethical, polite way
> to solve the problem.


I don't know if it's possible to explicitly choose a GTA02v5 or a GTA02v6 at
the buying moment...
if someone will tell us something about this I'll be more quiet...:)
I'm very happy that someone is going to buy a bugged hw (although barely),
but remember that battery lifetime is (and probably will always be) a
critical issue for Freerunners, and personally I don't want to buy an hw
revision that increase these issues...(knowing that there is a better one
around the corner)

Regards
Andrea Debortoli

-Kevin
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Steven Le Roux <steven at le-roux.info>
> wrote:
> > I totally agree with you.
> >
> > I understand everybody is happy to see the neo coming, but don't forget
> the
> > goal :) : to provides the best free phones.
> >
> > It wouldn't be pleasant for us to by a phone, knowing there is a known
> issue
> > with optimisation of  power consumption and LED stuff..
> >
> > I understand the rush ;) but we can wait...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Ron K. Jeffries <rjeffries at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > OpenMoko team:
> > >
> > > It's crazy to consider shipping the GTA02v5 without the rework
> > > to solve the current leakage issue.
> > >
> > > Yes, people are REALLY anxious to get this phone. But shipping
> > > a few thousand of units that do not meet spec on standby time
> > > is a Bad Idea.
> > >
> > > pull up your socks and do the rework
> > > if that delays launch by 30 days so be it.
> > > besides the firmware will be better by then as well. ;)
> > >
> > > -ron jeffries.
> > >
> > > CONTEXT:
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: "Shawn Rutledge" <shawn.t.rutledge at gmail.com>
> > > To: "List for Openmoko community discussion"
> > <community at lists.openmoko.org>
> > > Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:30:59 -0700
> > > Subject: Re: Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future
> > Button and LED software spec)
> > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
> > > <quatrox at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > It sounds to me as the problem is easy for those of us that knows a
> > little
> > > > electronics. If I get one that leaks current, I will start
> soldering!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Does anybody know if the fix Werner is talking about, will be done
> for
> > all
> > > > GTA02v5 PCB's? If it really will be a fix for it, it will not be any
> > problem
> > > > at all.
> > >
> > > Yes maybe it can be fixed.  But is the fix documented yet?
> > >
> > > Another way to look at it: if the fix can be done without a PCB
> > > change, then why not get the factory to do the rework (swapping
> > > transistors or whatever) before they are shipped?  How much would it
> > > cost to get that done in China?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ron K. Jeffries
> > > http://blog.eronj.com
> > > http://twitter.com/RonKJeffries
> > >
> > >
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