Freerunner will be GTA02v5 or GTA02v6? (was: Fwd: Future Button and LED software spec)

Tim Niemeyer tim.niemeyer at
Sat Apr 19 15:24:57 CEST 2008

Hello Michael Shiloh,

can you please clear this?

* "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <mail at> [18-04-08 17:45]:
> I'm re-posting here some mails from the openmoko-devel "Future Button 
> and LED software spec" thread [1] in which there are some infos about 
> Freerunner hardware that I think they should be more visible.
> Summarizing, they say that the GTA02v6 hardware version fixes an 
> hardware bug that causes the LEDs to use about 150mW instead of 25mW.
> Btw Werner Almesberger stated there that the first batch of GTA02 to be 
> sold will be composed by GTA02v5 phones while GTA02v6 hardware will be 
> sold only in a second phase.
> The hardware differencies between the two versions [2] (I've updated 
> with this LEDs issue) don't seem so worthless since there are some power 
> fixes (not only this one).
> Read below:
> >Andy Powell wrote:
> >>Shawn Rutledge wrote:
> >>>Werner Almesberger wrote:
> >>>Right now, we could only leave them (the LEDs) permanently on, which 
> >>>comes with a
> >>>hefty electricity bill, particularly on GTA02v5 (each LED burns about
> >>>150mW). In GTA02v6, this should come down to about 25mW, maybe less.
> >>
> >>But  GTA02v5 is not going to ship, is it?
> >> 
> >>>Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
> >>>>Werner Almesberger wrote:
> >>>>Last thing I've heard, the first units will be GTA02v5 :-(
> >>>>
> >>>>>thomasg wrote:
> >>>>>@Werner: do you know - or can you figure out - how many GTA02v5 will
> >>>>>leave the factory and reach the customers?
> >>>>
> >>>>I've heard something like "thousands". However, I've also heard that
> >>>>there'll be some sort of fix for the LED problem in these GTA02v5.
> >>>
> >>>Why this? Why not selling v6 directly? And... Which are other diffs
> >>>between v5 and v6? I think that the power usage of every element of the
> >>>phone is vital.
> >>>And which kind of fix for v5 is planned?
> >
> >I certainly think that this should be made very very clear to people 
> >buying the first batches and not just left as a passing comment on the dev 
> >list.
> So why shipping semi-bugged hardware if there's a fixed version ready?
> [1]
> [2]
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Tim Niemeyer
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