2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?
montgoss at gmail.com
Wed Aug 13 22:23:38 CEST 2008
The MokoMakefile is great. I've had it working for months. But I
still don't know how I would contribute to OM. There's a wiki page
about using the MokoMakefile to edit the existing packages. But I
don't think that addresses actually contributing said changes back to
OM. Maybe I'm just missing something.
Now I have used the toolchain to make my own little app. But I don't
think that's what Jay meant by contributing.
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Roland Mas <lolando at debian.org> wrote:
> Jay Vaughan, 2008-08-13 14:42:23 +0200 :
>>> Idea of Open Source projects is to release them before they're
>>> ready, to let community work on them as well.
>> That would be fine in our case, *if* we could work on them
>> concurrently, but there is so much cruft in dealing with the build
>> environment - and too many forks in the details - that it makes it
>> very unproductive to try to contribute.
> Oh come on. After reading all your (and others') scary messages
> about that, I decided to give it a try. So I pointed my browser to
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile. Half an hour later, I had
> a build in progress. Most of that half-hour was spent waiting for
> stuff to download, and part of the rest was due to my running the
> whole stuff in a particular isolated environment (cowbuilder chroot,
> for those who care) with its own characteristics (stuff runs as root,
> and I didn't have a home directory).
> Of course, the build hasn't completed yet (I have a few *.ipk
> already, but the webpage mentions 5 hours on a computer that's rather
> faster than mine), but if pasting less than 15 commands straight from
> a web page is too high a barrier to entry for prospective developers,
> I doubt they'd be able to accomplish much even if it was a single
> command to run.
> Half an hour. 15 commands to copy and paste. How much more
> hand-holding does a developer need?
> Roland Mas
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