Stage of GTA03 development?

Pander pander at users.sourceforge.net
Thu Dec 18 10:25:54 CET 2008


How is UMTS support on GTA03 (read support in Japan)?

On Thu, December 18, 2008 10:02, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:46:54 +0100 "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller"
> <hns at computer.org> babbled:
>
>>
>> Am 18.12.2008 um 00:12 schrieb Will Siddall:
>>
>> > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Justyn Butler
>> > <justynbutler+openmoko at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Replace the mc75i with a 3.5G modem! Go on, surprise us all!
>>
>> We perhaps will be most surprised how much a 3G modem will cost...
>
> a 3g modem/module/chipset is REALLY expensive. especially if you have low
> volume (that means less than a few hundred thousand units). you pay a
> small
> fortune in royalties too.
>
>> >> I have to agree with Justyn and say that we need a 3G phone.  I
>> >> bought
>> > this phone in hopes that I can use it when I travel around.
>> > Unfortunately, when I leave the country, it just becomes a toy to play
>> > around with and most of the time I have to leave it behind :(
>>
>> Why that?
>>
>> I don't own a 3G phone but a UMTS wireless card for my Mac.
>>
>> My practical experience is:
>>
>> a) in areas (urban) where you have HSDPA speed, you also have WiFi
>> hotspots
>>
>> b) in all other areas (more rural) your connection falls back to GPRS
>> anyway
>>
>> So, a phone that combines GPRS and WiFi is a little more difficult to
>> connect
>> to the correct network but has no dramatically worse connectivity than
>> real 3G.
>>
>> 2 months ago I had to run a VNC connection to my server back home
>> through GPRS.
>> Slowly, but it worked.
>>
>> Improving to 3G is therefore a "nice to have" for me. Not mandatory.
>
> here is where i'd disagree. i can walk down my street in sydney - 100% of
> wifi
> spots are locked (wep/wpa etc.) - no one opens them. yopur choice is
> "spotty"
> wifi hotspots you have to pay for. the other option is 3g (umts/hsdpa
> etc.)
> which has pretty good coverage most areas in urban settings - even
> outside. i
> think there seems to be some assumption that wifi is so widespread in
> urban
> areas (and it comes at a cost equal to or cheaper than 3g datarates). this
> is
> not the case in australia. not to mention the datarates for 3g are MUCH
> less
> than 2g - they give you a discount for 3g data, but for 2g, it's rap you
> silly
> per kilobyte. why? the phone network's 2g data setup was NOT designed for
> heavy
> data usage - it's being abused for data and that impacts call quality and
> the
> providers will appropriately price the service based on the network
> ability to
> provide. so 3g is reasonable. for 2g i will never pay for it as its
> outragoeus.
>
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