Stage of GTA03 development?

Pander pander at
Thu Dec 18 11:16:44 CET 2008

hotpots in the world:

On Thu, December 18, 2008 10:51, john wrote:
> A similar situation in London. Apparently we have the most WiFi
> hotspots in comparison to other cities [1] but you will have to pay to
> use the majority of these as they are operated by telecos like BT.
> [1]
> I have a deal to use T-Mobile hotspots but never used them as I just
> leave my device connected via 3G. The only time I switch to WiFi
> outside my house is when I am at my local pub which has poor GSM
> signal and free WiFI.
> Having said that, the only application I tend to hammer the 3G on is
> Internet radio. I like to chillax to KCRW on my commute!
> John.
> 2008/12/18 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <raster at>:
> [snip]
>>> Improving to 3G is therefore a "nice to have" for me. Not mandatory.
>> here is where i'd disagree. i can walk down my street in sydney - 100%
>> of wifi
>> spots are locked (wep/wpa etc.) - no one opens them. yopur choice is
>> "spotty"
>> wifi hotspots you have to pay for. the other option is 3g (umts/hsdpa
>> etc.)
>> which has pretty good coverage most areas in urban settings - even
>> outside. i
>> think there seems to be some assumption that wifi is so widespread in
>> urban
>> areas (and it comes at a cost equal to or cheaper than 3g datarates).
>> this is
>> not the case in australia. not to mention the datarates for 3g are MUCH
>> less
>> than 2g - they give you a discount for 3g data, but for 2g, it's rap you
>> silly
>> per kilobyte. why? the phone network's 2g data setup was NOT designed
>> for heavy
>> data usage - it's being abused for data and that impacts call quality
>> and the
>> providers will appropriately price the service based on the network
>> ability to
>> provide. so 3g is reasonable. for 2g i will never pay for it as its
>> outragoeus.
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