Appearance of Neo FreeRunner (Was: Re: Wiki - confusion)

Thu Feb 7 01:41:37 CET 2008

The specs I saw were not in the Wiki.  They were at:

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2393777675.html

Quote:
Additional Neo FreeRunner specs include:
Processor -- Samsung S3C2442 500MHz
RAM -- 128MB
Flash -- 256MB
Display -- 4.3-inch diagonal 640 x 480 VGA Color TFT LCD
Graphics -- SMedia 3362-based 3D graphics acceleration
Accelerometers -- 2 x 3D accelerometers
Audio -- "high-quality" audio codec
USB -- 1 x version 1.1
Cellular -- 2.5G tri-band GPRS/GSM (900MHz or 850MHz)
WiFi -- 802.11b/g WiFi
Bluetooth -- version 2.0
GPS -- AGPS (assisted global positioning system) receiver

I dunno...making a mistake of 2.8" versus 4.3" is pretty hard to do. 
Methinks I shall stay suspicious.

Doing a bit of scratchpad design work, a 4.3 inch diagonal screen would
result in a device of 3"x4" with 1/4" casing margins on the sides and 3/4"
(thumb width) case end margins (ala the iPhone).  If the device was kept to
1/2" in thickness, it still would fit comfortably in a standard clothing
pocket with about 1/2" to 3/4" to spare.  One centimeter thick would be
**uber-sexy**.  If such a handset with an open software stack became
available, I would drop my iPhones in box and mail them back to Steve along
with an impolitely worded note telling him where he can stick them. 

To reinterate, moving forward with a 2.8 inch diag. screen at any
resolution in a post iPhone world would be a major mistake in my frequently
disregarded opinion.

Thanks for the hard (and difficult at times) work that you do Michael.

Alan

Original Message:
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From: Michael Shiloh michael at openmoko.org
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:52:29 -0800
To: community at lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Re: Appearance of Neo FreeRunner (Was: Re: Wiki - confusion)

Hi Alan,

The screen is the same size. Can you provide the link to the larger 
screen spec, so that we can correct this error?

Thanks for helping to keep our wiki correct!

Michael

alan at rotorgraphics.com wrote:
> Hmmmm...
> 
> That would explain the larger screen spec I saw.  I smell "Golden
> Formfactor" goodness in the oven.
> 
> Alan
> 
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Michael Shiloh michael at openmoko.org
> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:26:29 -0800
> To: community at lists.openmoko.org
> Subject: Appearance of Neo FreeRunner (Was: Re: Wiki - confusion)
> 
> 
> Hi Kevin,
> 
> I have looked into your question, and the official answer is that we are 
> not going to discuss the appearance of the Neo FreeRunner until the 
> product releases.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Michael
> 
> On Feb 6, 2008, at 11:56 AM, Michael Shiloh wrote:
> 
>> Hi Kevin,
>>
>>
>> That's a good question. I don't know, as I haven't seen the final  
>> plastic.
>>
>> Perhaps Wolfgang can answer.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> Kevin Zuber wrote:
>>> Hi Wolfgang and Michael,
>>> thank you for clarify that, but it raises a new question for me:
>>> Does that mean that there is written "Neo FreeRunner" in GTA02 at the
>>> place where "Neo 1973" is written in GTA01? (e.g. in [1])
>>> Thanks,
>>> Kevin
>>> [1] http://openmoko.com/uploaded_images/black_big.png
>>> Am Mittwoch, den 06.02.2008, 01:31 +0800 schrieb Wolfgang Spraul:
>>>> JW, Michael -
>>>>
>>>> we had an internal discussion about this and I think everybody is  
>>>> on  the same page now:
>>>>
>>>> GTA01 = Neo 1973
>>>> GTA02 = Neo FreeRunner
>>>>
>>>> Brand: Neo
>>>> Model: 1973
>>>> Version: gta01
>>>>
>>>> 'gta' for all gta-series class devices
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps, going forward we will try to get better at  
>>>> keeping  internal (engineering) names and marketing names  
>>>> separate, because  they travel at different speeds :-)
>>>> Wolfgang
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 6, 2008, at 1:00 AM, Michael Shiloh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> JW wrote:
>>>>>> so did we get any official pronouncement from the Openmoko team  
>>>>>> yet?
>>>>>> Are Wolfgang Spraul and me right (gta1=neo gta2=freerunner)
>>>>>> Or is Piotr right (neo1973 = class of phones covering phase 0  
>>>>>> and  phase 1 incl
>>>>>> gta01 and gta02 and only public release or phase2 =  
>>>>>> freerunner)   Hope i
>>>>>> represented Pioter view properly (check further up thread)
>>>>>> Would be good to know from one of Openmoko team members  
>>>>>> (michael?)  so wiki can
>>>>>> reflect correct picture
>>>>> I haven't had a chance to triple-check, but I'm 99% sure it's this:
>>>>>
>>>>> GTA01 = Neo 1973
>>>>> GTA02 = Neo FreeRunner
>>>>>
>>>>> Thus both are members of the Neo family.
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
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