power management on Neo1973

Thu Jan 10 13:42:31 CET 2008

Hey, I  am not even thinking of sending the phone back anywhere. I love it.
Was just trying to clarify what i had been reading on the IRC and the list.

It would have been great if suspend could have worked perfectly on on the
Neo1973 (ever in the future) -an added bonus that allowed one to not worry
about deep discharge, take the Neo away from the computer and show to other
interested people.

That being said people do read the wiki page before buying and also note

"To clarify some misconceptions about what this is, please read this
article.

The product status is the *earliest possible time in development* at which
we can provide* functional hardware*  (italics added by Rakshat) with a very
early, very incomplete software stack"

This need to be corrected if power management is a hardware problem.

Also the portion where it says "no reasonable battery life yet" gives the
impression that there will be reasonable battery life in the future.

I will edit the wiki but only after i get some confirmation for OM or FIC
that it is indeed a hardware problem.
Rakshat

---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Nicolas Linkert" <linkert at fastmail.fm>
> To: community at lists.openmoko.org
> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:47:10 +0100
> Subject: Re: Power Management on Neo1973
> Hi,
>
> I sent this to FIC:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> before I do that [send my device back to FIC and exchange it],
> I'll need to find out the following:
>
> Question:
> "I have been following the improving power management conversation on
> the IRC logs and on this list but am still not clear if it is only a
> software problem (suspend issues, devices not shutting off when being
> closed
> etc.)or there are Major hardware issues involved (I am talking about the
> Gta1 devices not FreeRunner). Could someone from OM or FIC clarify
> this?"
>
> Answer:
> "I am not from fic or OM, but from what I can tell (I developed the Neo
> parts of Qtopia), power management issues are hardware related,
> otherwise Qtopia would suspend/resume perfectly, as it does on the
> Greenphone and other handsets Qtopia comes with."
>
> This appeared yesterday/today on one of the the OpenMoko mailing lists
> (Community). IF the answer to the question is correct, then there's no
> need to exchange my phone - it simply won't improve then. But IF that is
> the case, then I would like to give my phone back.
>
> Hope someone from FIC can clear this up.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The answer I got:
>
> "The answer is correct."
>
> So the GTA01 will in fact never be usable as a phone. Too bad. And some
> EUR 300,00 wasted ...
>
> Best regards,
> Nicolas
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Maciej Kaniewski" <maciej.kaniewski at gmail.com>
> To: "List for OpenMoko community discussion" <community at lists.openmoko.org
> >
> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:02:47 +0000
> Subject: Re: Power Management on Neo1973
>
> Hi,
> from openmoko.com shop page :
>
> WARNING: Developers only! Please note that the OpenMoko products are not
> meant for the end user and explicitly marked as Developer preview at this
> time. Read this wiki article<http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Developer_preview>to find more technical details of what you can and cannot expect of these
> devices.
>
> ... and when you follow the link you can find
> ...
> What you *CAN NOT* expect yet
>
>    - reliable means of making phone calls, esp. not from the UI
>    - reliable means of sending/receiving SMS, esp. not from the UI
>    - integrated GPRS data access
>    - bluetooth integration (basic bluez driver works)
>    - proper power management (i.e. no reasonable battery life yet)
>    - ringtone (or other) profile management
>    - network preferences (call deflection, manual operator selection,
>    ...)
>    - a complete application framework where third party application
>    developers can write apps that easily integrate with the OpenMoko world
>
>
> As far as i know you had to agree with that  when you bought the phone
>
> Maciej
>
> On 10/01/2008, Nicolas Linkert < linkert at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I sent this to FIC:
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > before I do that [send my device back to FIC and exchange it],
> > I'll need to find out the following:
> >
> > Question:
> > "I have been following the improving power management conversation on
> > the IRC logs and on this list but am still not clear if it is only a
> > software problem (suspend issues, devices not shutting off when being
> > closed
> > etc.)or there are Major hardware issues involved (I am talking about the
> > Gta1 devices not FreeRunner). Could someone from OM or FIC clarify
> > this?"
> >
> > Answer:
> > "I am not from fic or OM, but from what I can tell (I developed the Neo
> > parts of Qtopia), power management issues are hardware related,
> > otherwise Qtopia would suspend/resume perfectly, as it does on the
> > Greenphone and other handsets Qtopia comes with."
> >
> > This appeared yesterday/today on one of the the OpenMoko mailing lists
> > (Community). IF the answer to the question is correct, then there's no
> > need to exchange my phone - it simply won't improve then. But IF that is
> >
> > the case, then I would like to give my phone back.
> >
> > Hope someone from FIC can clear this up.
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > The answer I got:
> >
> > "The answer is correct."
> >
> > So the GTA01 will in fact never be usable as a phone. Too bad. And some
> > EUR 300,00 wasted ...
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Nicolas
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OpenMoko community mailing list
> > community at lists.openmoko.org
> > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
> >
>
>
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