Shipping to canada...

steve steve at
Sun Jul 6 03:09:45 CEST 2008

Check out Koolu. They have just signed up as a distributor for Canada and
the US. 

-----Original Message-----
From: community-bounces at
[mailto:community-bounces at] On Behalf Of Dave O'Connor
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 11:27 PM
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: Re: Shipping to canada...

I'm in Canada too and myself and Railer from the #openmoko along with
someone in my group have been doing some research into this. 

UPS Suck, they screw you on two main fees, brokerage (customs clearance) and
bond fees.

Bond fees are for them putting up the money for GST which you can pay to
them when the package is in transit if you want to avoid it.

Brokerage fees are the even bigger scam and these are for clearing customs.
(These don't have to be paid at all using fedex or USPS and if openmoko
would notice this in the future and allow more options it would be very much
appreciated :) )

We worked it out that it's just 10 dollars extra to send it expedited and
that includes all of their scam fees.

You can do brokerage yourself and you'd have to look into it and see how to
do it in Alberta. For us this would involve rejecting the package and their
extra fees, going to their depot, which is near the airport in Vancouver but
I don't know what applies to you, and then going to customs. That's too much
time off work for me to be worth it so we're going to go for the expedited
delivery which is much faster and only 10 dollars more expensive than
standard delivery + scam fees

Did I mention UPS suck?


On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 23:57 -0600, Matthias Stone wrote:
> These are probably silly questions, but I ask anyway (and thank you 
> for your replies)
> a)  In shipping the phone (freerunner) to Canada, are any 
> taxes/duty/fees applied? (buying from webstore)
> b)  How long would you expect it to take to ship to Alberta using the 
> normal (aka cheapest) shipping rate?
> Thanks,
> Matthias Stone
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