Number of GTA02s ordered as of 10 Jul 2008

Francesco Cat heartcollector87 at
Thu Jul 10 20:12:44 CEST 2008

I must admit I am really courious about how many FRs will be sold
within the end of 2008. I really hope someone will tell us this
number, don't matter when :P

2008/7/10 Kevin Dean <kevin at>:
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Ron K. Jeffries <rjeffries at> wrote:
>> My gut says OpenMoko first mass production run was approx
>> 1,000 to 1,500.
> I think you're dramatically low-balling it. You're basing that on the
> number of phones ordered, but aren't factoring in the number shipped
> to resellers who have the item in stock but haven't sold it to a
> customer yet, the number in transit to those retailers and the
> distribution centers (one can assume that they're producing are a rate
> faster than they're shipping to customers), the number put into
> people's hands as "test equipment" for major media outlets,
> universities and the like. I'm willing to bet that, like Koolu, there
> are people or organizations with devices that aren't in end-user hands
> yet - an Android based Freerunner like the W.E. Phone (for instance)
> doesn't exist yet, but it's safe to say they're developing it on some
> form of hardware.
> Realistically speaking, the number of people with Freerunner's in
> their hands don't matter too much. The only reason I care at all about
> how many devices Openmoko fabricated is to know if they're generating
> revenue to be secure in a future product line. The number of devices
> produced doesn't correlate the the number of community members (one
> can assume there are device owners who will never join the OM
> community and that there are members without devices) and the number
> of users with devices doesn't correlate to Openmoko's profitability.
> Openmoko earns profit on devices that end up in closets and warehouses
> just the same.
> And... A bit more bluntly... I think there's a reason that the sales
> figures haven't been released. :)
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