which list to write to (was Re: x offset in landscape mode)

Yorick Moko yorickmoko at gmail.com
Sat Jul 12 20:35:49 CEST 2008

"Please - if you have an opinion, speak up one way or the other."
I see a use for both lists, as long as people use the right list.
(I will probably also make mistakes, and I will be grateful if you redirect
me to the right list)
Device owners can be useful for a number of things, for example: surveys,
requests for user feedback, testing of apps...

I'm only subscribed to community and device owners and read all the rest on
http://lists.openmoko.org (because I lack the programming skills to give
useful replies in for example the kernel list).


On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Stroller <stroller at stellar.eclipse.co.uk>

> On 12 Jul 2008, at 01:01, William Kenworthy wrote:
> > ...
> > Basicly I know it wont change anything, but it always helps when
> > someone
> > points out that your view of the universe isnt the same as everybody
> > elses ...
> >
> > BillK
> >
> > * not going to reply to anymore on this topic as "minds are fixed in
> > cement"
> [quoting order rearranged]
> Well, these comments apply to both sides of the argument, an argument
> which goes back decades - I certainly remember many posts on Usenet
> about this subject.
> The reason I'm going on about this is because I'd like to see a
> consensus.
> Sure, like any geek discussing a point, I think my view is the
> "right" and most logical one. I'd like to see people stop using the -
> community list for stuff that would be better posted on -device-
> owners. But if that's never going to happen we might as well let Sean
> get on with it & delete -device-owners.
> There must be frikkin' thousands of people subscribed to -community,
> and we're hearing in these threads from only a handful of them.
> Please - if you have an opinion, speak up one way or the other. I
> promise I'll shut up about this if everyone disagrees with me, but if
> I don't hear from you I will start (or continue, rather) nagging
> people to post on the "correct" list.
> > ...
> >>> For this reason, all my OM emails go to one folder, which defeats
> >>> the
> >>> reason for having so many lists
> >>
> >> That is YOUR choice. It doesn't defeat the object for anyone else who
> >> chooses to filter their lists differently.
> >
> > From my point of view you are looking at it back to front - you are
> > forcing me to subscribe and manage multiple mailing lists that overlap
> > just so I can get a coherent view of OM - why not have two lists as
> > suggested [-dev and -user] based on broad categories
> We might as well have only ONE list, in that case, openmoko-everything.
> > and get the users to filter them ...
> But how do the users achieve this? It's simply NOT POSSIBLE to filter
> a single list into two different mailboxes based on message content,
> whereas it is trivial for the user to filter *openmoko* into a single
> email mailbox.
> So if we're going to continue the "you're forcing the burden upon me"
> argument it is FAR LESS of a burden for those who want to use a
> single mailbox to filter on their local mail client (a one-off setup
> procedure) then it is for those who want different topics separated
> to suffer the clutter and mess of a single list (as this is a
> continuing, ongoing and otherwise insolvable inconvenience).
> Stroller.
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