Reason for GPS problems found!
kalle.happonen at iki.fi
Wed Jul 16 09:42:35 CEST 2008
Marcus Bauer wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 08:45 +0200, Kalle Happonen wrote:
>>> Its really pretty important that the communication on this issue *not*
>>> diverge into hate and vitriol towards customers, because to those who
>>> are observing the OpenMoko project - not participating - the SD+GPS
>>> testing issue is a *huge* screw up.
>> No, the SD+GPS issue is a bug. Admittedly a somewhat nasty bug, but
>> nothing extraordinary. The Debian key generation vulnerability was a
>> *huge* screw up.
> I don't follow your view. The Debian ssh bug was all but obvious. That's
> why it went for a long time unnoticed.
Not being obvious doesn't mean it isn't a huge screw up. Small things
can mean huge implications. The Debian bug immideately cut the
foundation of a huge amount of security that relies on this, worldwide
and in critical applications. Keys are expected to be practically
uncrackable, and a *lot* is built on this assumption, so correct key
generations should be a no-brainer (20-20 hindsight, I admit). So the
debian bug was a huge screw up, but luckily I think it was fixed with a
bad scare in most cases.
> However, the GPS is a basic feature and its malfunctioning is very
> obvious. If you buy a new car and the engine doesn't run you'll wonder
> if anybody ever drove around with it.
Well, if you buy a beta first customer release car and the gps isn't
working when you play a cd, You might think crap! well luckily they
promised a fix in the end of the week, in time for the weekend trip to
> The same goes for making phone calls: there is quite often a buzzing
> sound on the far end and it can be really bad. Unless you don't care
> about the people you are calling the Neo is not usable as your daily
This IMHO is a much bigger problem, which has caught much less attention.
> Then there are the phones with a GSM modem that constantly re-registers.
> And there is still no word about which headsets are usable with the Neo.
> Don't mix up freedom with broken hardware!
Don't mix first release beta phones with big-company market ready
devices (which sometimes are "market ready" themselves, even with a lot
I think this is just a bit bigger case of the whole gta02v5 vs gta02v6
led issue, that when quickly resolved actually was forgotten and even
the word "issue" is too strong.
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