In the press. "The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostlyoutdated and incomplete documentation."

[Josh Monson]

Has the list been created? The wiki-editors mailing list?

Michael/Brenda,
Is there any type of organizational plan at this point in terms of whom
will be doing what, and will Brenda be coordinating the efforts I
assume?
I know this has all come up very quickly so it's totally understandable
if there is no plan as of yet :P. Just trying to get coordination
rolling.

Cheers and thanks again

-----Original Message-----
From: community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org
[mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of steve
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:24 PM
To: 'Steven **'; 'List for Openmoko community discussion'
Cc: 'Brenda Wang'
Subject: RE: In the press. "The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of
mostlyoutdated and incomplete documentation."

The issue is the wiki grows like a weed. On one hand this is great since
information just get posted.
On the other hand this rhapsodic construction is difficult to navigate. 

So... Solutions welcomed. 

-----Original Message-----
From: montgoss at gmail.com [mailto:montgoss at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Steven
**
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:29 PM
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Cc: Brenda Wang; steve
Subject: Re: In the press. "The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly
outdated and incomplete documentation."

I'll tell you explicitly.  Go ahead.  It's a wiki!  If anyone doesn't
like
your change, they can easily see the history and revert it.  Or just
clean
up your change however they like.  That's what makes the wiki so
powerful.

If they didn't want you to edit it, I'm pretty sure they could lock it
down
so that you can't.  The fact that they haven't seems to mean they aren't
worried "regular" users might edit it.

-Steven

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Stroller
<stroller at stellar.eclipse.co.uk>
wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I thought to try fixing a small part of this particular problem by 
> editing the main page & adding a link to http://wiki.openmoko.org/ 
> wiki/Distributions
>
> But I do not see where to put it! Perhaps it should replace the 
> "Current software stack" link to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ 
> NeoSoftwareStack ??
>
> Perhaps these 5 categories:
>   Introduction to Openmoko
>   Openmoko Products
>   Join Openmoko development
>   Openmoko community
>   Getting started with Openmoko Wiki
> should be extended with the addition of "Openmoko software"?
>
> Or perhaps I should just get my hands dirty and change the 
> "Introduction to Openmoko" to include the link to "Distributions"? As 
> a user I feel reluctant to edit the main page as I feel it "belongs"
> to Openmoko the company or to Brenda, so you must tell me explicitly 
> if you wish me to feel free.
>
> Stroller.
>
>
>
> On 17 Jul 2008, at 20:00, steve wrote:
>
>> Brenda
>>
>>   The main page index does not address Scotts issue.
>>
>>   I second scott's criticism of the wiki. It is not organized well.
>>
>>   A good start would be a better search engine
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org
>> [mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Brenda 
>> Wang
>> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:56 AM
>> To: scott at tnstaafl.net; List for Openmoko community discussion
>> Subject: Re: In the press. "The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of 
>> mostly outdated and incomplete documentation."
>>
>> Hi, I am wiki full time editor of Openmoko.
>> Thank you for your opinion . I will put more effort , to make wiki 
>> more easy to use.
>> And now , If you want to know what we have on wiki , Please use this 
>> Index page.
>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page
>>
>> Brenda
>>
>> Scott Derrick ??:
>>> Perhaps this is what you seek?
>>>
>>>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> This is a great page, one of the gems hidden in the bowels of the OM

>>> Wiki.
>>>
>>> Its also a great example of whats wrong with the Wiki.
>>>
>>> But how do I find it?  Its not listed on the home page,  not on the
>>> FreeRunner page,  not on the getting started page?    Unless I
search
>>> for exactly teh right word or combinations of words I would never 
>>> know it existed... The only link I could find, after I knew it 
>>> existed was Software/distributions/distributions..
>>>
>>> There has to be some kind of boiler plate format for the design and 
>>> layout of the Wiki so things are easier to find. You can't rely on 
>>> the search engine, it sucks..
>>>
>>> I think that was the point of the person who recommended the OpenWRT

>>> Wiki.  Its design and format was easy to use and helped you find 
>>> things instead of thwarting you.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>
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