community Digest, Vol 88, Issue 164

david pais davioh2001 at yahoo.com
Sun Jul 20 22:27:58 CEST 2008


is this phone usable for daily light phone use (about 30-60 min/ day) or have the audio problems not been solved?


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> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 3:45 PM
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>    1. Re: Import Contacts (Roland Mas)
>    2. Re: Special Letters? (doron)
>    3. Re: Another Question - Kernel Headers (Andy Green)
>    4. RE: AW: RE: unable to start up freerunner after
> batterie was
>       full down (steve)
>    5. Re: Another Question - Kernel Headers (Joseph Reeves)
>    6. RE: Can you help the Openmoko booth at Linuxworld,
> August
>       4-7,	in SanFrancisco? (steve)
>    7. Re: USB connector not Mini-AB? (Tobias Diedrich)
>    8. Re: Import Contacts (Jeffrey Ratcliffe)
>    9. Re: Another Question - Kernel Headers (arne
> anka)Jeffrey Ratcliffe, 2008-07-20 20:13:29 +0200 :
> 
> > I have the same problem, and additionally, the dump
> option runs
> > without error, but also without output.
> 
> I just tried again, and I managed to get these symptoms
> when running
> the script too soon after a boot.  The second run went on
> fine.  Maybe
> something needs the daemon to be started, and it's not
> started
> initially...
> 
> Roland.
> -- 
> Roland Mas
> 
> Au royaume des aveugles, il y a des borgnes à ne pas
> dépasser.
>   -- in Soeur Marie-Thérèse des Batignolles
> (Maëster)Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:18:37 +0200 Roland Mas
> <lolando at debian.org> babbled:
> >
> >   
> >> arne anka, 2008-07-20 16:01:34 +0200 :
> >>
> >>     
> >>> sadly enough i currently have no clue what
> causes the lack of
> >>> anything non-ascii, would have expected he fr
> to be unicode driven.
> >>>       
> >> I think it is Unicode driven.  My contacts have
> some non-ascii
> >> characters in their names, and they display just
> fine.  I guess the
> >> problem is mostly the input method.
> >>     
> >
> > in ASU (not in current .dev build though, but in SVN
> for illume) the keyboard
> > layout is customisable via a config file and can
> produce any keystroke that x
> > is capable of (so it can produce ä, ó, ñ, ø etc.)
> but i don't have a layout
> > that has every one of these in it currently, but
> it's a simple text file to put
> > in a directory (.kbd file). for now it has 3 layouts,
> simply letters-only
> > qwerty, "numeric" that covers the other keys
> (numbers, symbols) and a few
> > accented chars, and a full qwerty layout (ok it is
> missing F1-F12, Pause/Break
> > and PrtSc/SysRq but ... if u really want u can try
> cram them in somehow...). i
> > will add anther key layout for "intl" chars
> (accented ones etc.).
> >
> > in the end i imagine people might do custom layouts
> for a language (eg german
> > would only have ä, ö, ü and ß). romainian some
> other set, danish another set.
> > etc. nice simple text files for everyone to enjoy :)
> this should allo for a
> > greek and russian layout too, katakana/hragana,
> hangul, thai, ... anything
> > really. but right now right-to-left languages wont
> work (well)
> > (arabic/farsi/hebrew). unfortunatly that is really
> near the bottom of my list...
> >
> >   
> I am using the 2007.2 ( and the qtopia image, from SD card)
> image and I 
> am using Hebrew in my FreeRunner (include right - to -left)
> read and write.
> 
> in the qtopia image I can read Hebrew SMS massages
> (right-to- left) but 
> I didn't try to change / re-map the keyboard to Hebrew
> .
> 
> works fine for me.
> 
> - doron
> 
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> Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian
> |
> | ?
> 
> Awesome, nobody ever mentioned this marvel... got to give
> this a try
> tonight!
> 
> - -Andy
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> 
>  Micheal jump started my battery in about 2 seconds. It was
> a Young
> Frankenstein momement!
>  Without the sparks or pretty assistents. Anyways, my
> reanimated battery
> still works fine.
> 
>  Anecdotal I know. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org
> [mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of
> Michael Shiloh
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:44 PM
> To: Joerg Reisenweber
> Cc: community at lists.openmoko.org; linux4u at bluewin.ch
> Subject: Re: AW: RE: unable to start up freerunner after
> batterie was full
> down
> 
> 
> 
> Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> > Am Mi  16. Juli 2008 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
> >> Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jumpstart the battery is very unlikely to help
> you out.
> >>>
> >> Joerg, can you explain this further?
> >>
> >> I've actually had excellent luck jump-starting
> the battery. I set my 
> >> adjustable power supply at about 4.5V and I
> connect it directly to 
> >> the battery terminals for just a second, then
> measure the voltage on 
> >> the battery. If the battery voltage is still zero,
> I repeat. Usually 
> >> after a few "shocks" the battery comes
> out of its internal under-voltage
> protection.
> >>
> >> I understand that GTA01 batteries have no
> hysteresis and need just 
> >> one "shock" (in fact Werner said
> "one electron" I think) to come out 
> >> of under-voltage protection. I understand that
> GTA02 batteries have 
> >> hysteresis and require more coulombs injected
> before they will recover.
> > 
> > I'm just suspicious a shock-reanimated battery
> holds enough power 
> > (=voltage) to bring us over the boot gap, and
> won't activate 
> > protection again just in no-time when we try to pull
> energy. That's 
> > all. Of course you can shockstart battery out of
> protect-mode, no 
> > doubt. But did you get a boot with such a bat?
> 
> 
> I thought so, yes, but I'll check again to verify.
> 
> Michael
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/communityJosch
> won the community member of the month (week) in March for
> getting it working:
> 
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Member_of_the_Week
> 
> Not that this really helps the OP, who seemingly knew about
> this already ;-)
> 
> Joseph
> 
> 
> 
> 2008/7/20 Andy Green <andy at openmoko.com>:
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> > Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> > | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian
> > |
> > | ?
> >
> > Awesome, nobody ever mentioned this marvel... got to
> give this a try
> > tonight!
> >
> > - -Andy
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> >The T shirts are planned, and I need to know how many
> debug boards and
> spares kits
> I need to pick up from Fremont to give away to volunteers.
> 
> And pat needs firm commitments to build a schedule.
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org
> [mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of
> Michael Shiloh
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:52 PM
> To: List for OpenMoko community discussion
> Subject: Can you help the Openmoko booth at Linuxworld,
> August 4-7, in
> SanFrancisco?
> 
> Openmoko will be at Linuxworld, and needs to staff two
> booths: One in the
> main vendor area, and another in the Linux Garage.
> 
> As we are a small understaffed team, we would love it if
> some of you could
> commit to helping us.
> 
> If you are on this mailing list, you already know enough to
> answer the most
> common question: "What is Openmoko?".
> 
> As for more technical questions, don't worry - you
> already know a lot, and
> you can always defer questions to one of us.
> 
> In return we plan some sort of appreciation, perhaps in the
> form of T-shirts
> or some other Openmoko swag, and you will be the proud
> owner of our undying
> gratitude :-) You will also be able to ask Steve all those
> difficult
> questions you've been saving up.
> 
> It's also a great opportunity for us to get to know
> you, no matter how much
> or little time you can commit to helping.
> 
> LinuxWorld is August 4-7, in San Francisco.
> 
> Please let me know right away so that I can arrange for
> badges.
> 
> Passes for the exhibit hall are free! Register at
> http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/register//SN335015
> 
> If there is interest we will also hold a BoF session.
> 
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> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/communityTorfinn
> Ingolfsen wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > 2008/7/19 Tobias Diedrich
> <ranma+openmoko at tdiedrich.de>:
> > > Looking at the Freerunner connector, it looks
> like it's really a
> > > Mini-B Female connector instead of the Mini-AB
> Female connector as
> > > stated on
> > >
> http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware
> > >
> > > Can someone else confirm this?
> > 
> > Yes. See
> >
> http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Package_Contents
> 
> Well, that doesn't contradict with a Mini-AB female
> connector though.
> As it's name says a Mini-AB femal connector should
> accept both
> Mini-A and Mini-B cables, which makes sense because Mini-B
> is used
> for client mode and Mini-A for host mode and the Freerunner
> supports
> both.
> 
> The wrong connector means that an 'offical' USB-OTG
> cable like
> http://www.amazon.de/Hama-00074214-OTG-Kabeladapter-Mini-USB-A-Stecker-USB-A-Kupplung/dp/B000EORX7U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1216581564&sr=8-1
> can't be used unfortunately...
> 
> And I can't find a USB-A receptacle to Mini-USB-A plug
> cable on amazon. :/
> Only this plug-adapter (maybe, it does not explicitly state
> A or B
> AFAICS), which will work I guess, but I'd rather like a
> cable.
> http://www.amazon.de/Adapter-BUCHSE-Stecker-Verl%C3%A4ngerung-Anschluss/dp/B001372BVA/ref=sr_1_44?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1216581654&sr=8-44
> Seems like I'll have to cannibalize the Hama cable.
> ^_^;
> 
> -- 
> Tobias						PGP: http://9ac7e0bc.uguu.de
> このメールは十割再利用されたビットで作られています。2008/7/20
> Roland Mas <lolando at debian.org>:
> > I just tried again, and I managed to get these
> symptoms when running
> > the script too soon after a boot.  The second run went
> on fine.  Maybe
> > something needs the daemon to be started, and it's
> not started
> > initially...
> 
> OK. A reboot got this working.
> 
> Does this mean the dbus daemon has to be restarted between
> changes
> file-side/GUI-side and your script?
> 
> I started out by making the mistake of copying my Evolution
> db across...
> 
> I'll do some testing.
> 
> Presumably people have started thinking about syncing
> Thunderbird and
> Evolution with OM?
> 
> Jeff> Awesome, nobody ever mentioned this marvel... got
> to give this a try
> > tonight!
> 
> let us know how it turned
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