community Digest, Vol 90, Issue 67

Ryan Svoboda svoboda.ryan at gmail.com
Thu Jul 31 01:54:31 CEST 2008


Sorry about the copy of a full digest before, and the double post now.

I just noticed that all of a sudden my ear speaker no longer works. The
speaker phone functions properly, but it causes a huge amount of feedback
for the other party.

If anyone else has tried to find warranty information about FreeRunners
purchased direct and shipped to the United States, it would be greatly
appreciated. I've searched everywhere I can think of and have found nothing
more than the "14 days" stated on the purchase website.


> From: "Ryan Svoboda" <svoboda.ryan at gmail.com>
> To: community at lists.openmoko.org
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:36:53 -0400
> Subject: Re: sales at openmoko.com - non-response
> Both my roommate and I have had a lot of trouble contacting anyone at
> openmoko. My roommate had trouble contacting anyone to get information about
> when his FreeRunner would ship (he had placed his order 2 hours before I,
> and recieved his a week after me due to shipping problems). I've been trying
> to contact Openmoko to have my FreeRunner repaired, since my AUX button is
> broken.
>
> I (unfortunately) had to spam everyone on the contact page
> http://www.openmoko.com/contact.html, and the only person to respond so
> far was chelsea at openmoko.com who was able to forward me to the person in
> charge of customer support: tony at openmoko.com. My original message was
> sent 9 days ago, and my first message to Tony was sent 5 days ago
>
> Unfortunately, Tony still hasn't responded. :(
>
> Ryan
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 1:53 PM, <community-request at lists.openmoko.org>wrote:
>
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>>   1. Re: ASU - startup broken by upgrade? (Torfinn Ingolfsen)
>>   2. Re: numptyphysics ipk (Charles Pax)
>>   3. Re: ppp support not in the kernel? (Andy Green)
>>   4. Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card
>>      interference      issue (Pawel Kowalak)
>>   5. RE: trying to buy a freerunner in taipei? (steve)
>>   6. RE: trying to buy a freerunner in taipei? (steve)
>>   7. sales at openmoko.com - non-response (Dave O'Connor)
>>   8. Re: GTK in Qtopia (Lorn Potter)
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Torfinn Ingolfsen" <tingox at gmail.com>
>> To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" <
>> community at lists.openmoko.org>
>> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:59:26 +0200
>> Subject: Re: ASU - startup broken by upgrade?
>> Hello,
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Mr. Morph <morphis at gravedo.de> wrote:
>> > Please see this bug report and the workaround in the last comment:
>> > https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1678
>>
>> Ouch1 Thats a large graft. Is it really necessary tom remove so many
>> packages?
>>
>> Ok, I'll try this.
>>
>> Hmm...
>> It doesn't seems to work for me:
>> root at om-gta02:~# opkg remove libecore0
>> Collected errors:
>>  * Package libecore0 is depended upon by packages:
>>  *      assassin
>>  *      e-wm
>>  *      efreet
>>  *      exquisite
>>  *      illume
>>  *      libecore-con
>>  *      libecore-evas
>>  *      libecore-fb
>>  *      libecore-file
>>  *      libecore-imf
>>  *      libecore-ipc
>>  *      libecore-job
>>  *      libecore-x
>>  *      libedbus0
>>  *      libedje0
>>  *      libefreet-mime0
>>  *      libefreet0
>>  *      libehal0
>>  *      ompower
>>  *      python-ecore
>>  *      python-edbus
>>  *      python-etk
>>  *      splinter
>>  * These might cease to work if package libecore0 is removed.
>>
>>  *  * You can force removal of this package with -force-depends.
>>  * You can force removal of this package and its dependents
>>  * with -force-removal-of-dependent-packages or -recursive
>>  * or by setting option force_removal_of_dependent_packages
>>  * in opkg.conf.
>>
>> I needed this:
>> opkg -force-depends remove libecore0
>>
>> But after that, it still doesn't work. There is a window on my X
>> screen with small text in it  (something about modules).
>> Oh well, it will get fixed sooner or later.
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Torfinn Ingolfsen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Charles Pax" <charles.pax at gmail.com>
>> To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" <
>> community at lists.openmoko.org>
>> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:12:04 -0400
>> Subject: Re: numptyphysics ipk
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Joseph Reeves <iknowjoseph at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Ignore me... OPKG to the rescue. This game is awesome! That's the end
>>> of my working day!
>>>
>>
>> Would someone be willing to post a video on YouTube of them playing this
>> game on their Freerunner? When Crayon Physics came out people flipped when
>> they saw it running on a tablet. I think a video on YouTube would help get
>> Openmoko some additional exposure.
>>
>> -Charles Pax
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Andy Green <andy at openmoko.com>
>> To: List for Openmoko community discussion <community at lists.openmoko.org>
>> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:21:37 +0100
>> Subject: Re: ppp support not in the kernel?
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>> Somebody in the thread at some point said:
>> |> I read about it, I am sympathetic to it, give me some time to clear
>> |> some
>> |> other critical problems.
>> |
>> | okay, understood.
>> |
>> |> I did wonder if anyone is mounting NFS over it and that is why it is a
>> |> built-in.
>> |
>> |
>> | i would think that the ability to mount the freerunner as a filesystem
>> | is a bit more higher priority than supporting the rare cases where
>> | someone is doing an nfs-root boot, no?
>>
>> It's one of those lovely situations that someone is not going to be
>> happy either way :-)  I have made the patch for this and will send it
>> out on kernel list as an RFC.
>>
>> - -Andy
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Pawel Kowalak <viru at bzimage.us>
>> To: List for Openmoko community discussion <community at lists.openmoko.org>
>> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:32:09 +0200
>> Subject: Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card
>> interference issue
>>
>>> | Track is very accurate (no jump-offs the road) in the city. Earlier I
>>> | used Garmin
>>> | GPS60 and tracks from it were way worse than from FR.
>>> |
>>> | I used today's kernel and u-boot.
>>>
>>> That's pretty encouraging, thanks.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hi again,
>>
>> I made another test, driving back home. This time, I zoomed to lvl 17
>> (maximum) and saved track again. I got fix from 8 satellites (10 visible)
>> after second turn (about 1 minute). I have pre-cached map of my city on SD
>> card (2GB sandisk). Here is the first part of the track:
>>
>> http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8456/test1ru8.jpg
>>
>> At the begining I was completly off-road until I clicked 'autocenter',
>> when it moved me to correct location (straight line is the offset), so I
>> think it is TangoGPS bug. Then normal drive in traffic / traffic lights,
>> etc. (on zoom=17).
>>
>> Here is another part of the track:
>>
>> http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9179/test2yj5.jpg
>>
>> I drove here almost 100km/h (but don't tell anyone) on max zoom, to read
>> tiles faster from the card. As you can see, no jump offs from the road.
>>
>> So, to me, GPS works great now. I had more problems with accuracy of my
>> Garmin outdoor device.
>>
>> BR,
>> Pawel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "steve" <steve at openmoko.com>
>> To: "'List for Openmoko community discussion'" <
>> community at lists.openmoko.org>
>> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:36:56 -0700
>> Subject: RE: trying to buy a freerunner in taipei?
>>
>> Harry,
>>  can you adress this
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org
>> [mailto:community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of david varnes
>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:32 PM
>> To: List for Openmoko community discussion
>> Subject: Re: trying to buy a freerunner in taipei?
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> there is a distributor in Australia ?
>>
>> Who / where ?
>> No indication on the distributor's page of your shop.
>>
>> A bunch of Australians would like to make a purchase too  :-)
>>
>> thanks muchly
>> davidv
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:27 AM, steve <steve at openmoko.com> wrote:
>> > Buy from australia.
>> >
>> > Should be cheaper than buying from the US or EU
>> >
>> > Also check india price.
>> >
>> > Or become a disty and turn a problem into prosperity
>> >
>>
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>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "steve" <steve at openmoko.com>
>> To: "'List for Openmoko community discussion'" <
>> community at lists.openmoko.org>
>> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:37:29 -0700
>> Subject: RE: trying to buy a freerunner in taipei?
>>  thanks fred
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org [mailto:
>> community-bounces at lists.openmoko.org] *On Behalf Of *Fred Janon
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2008 7:19 PM
>> *To:* List for Openmoko community discussion
>> *Subject:* Re: trying to buy a freerunner in taipei?
>>
>>  There is a group sales organized in Australia, the group just got the
>> first 60 devices in. The final price in Australia was AUD$440 I think..
>> There is a second group buy getting organized now. See the group page on the
>> Openmoko wiki.
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 07:32, david varnes <david.varnes at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve,
>>>
>>> there is a distributor in Australia ?
>>>
>>> Who / where ?
>>> No indication on the distributor's page of your shop.
>>>
>>> A bunch of Australians would like to make a purchase too  :-)
>>>
>>> thanks muchly
>>> davidv
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:27 AM, steve <steve at openmoko.com> wrote:
>>> > Buy from australia.
>>> >
>>> > Should be cheaper than buying from the US or EU
>>> >
>>> > Also check india price.
>>> >
>>> > Or become a disty and turn a problem into prosperity
>>> >
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Dave O'Connor <doc at skynet.ie>
>> To: community at lists.openmoko.org
>> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:49:09 +0100 (IST)
>> Subject: sales at openmoko.com - non-response
>> Hello
>> I'm wondering has anyone receieved any response from sales at openmoko.comin the last two weeks? I'm trying to get openmoko to resubmit info for
>> shipping so I can claim back provincial sales tax for my group but 3 emails
>> to sales@ since the Friday before last and one email to a specific person
>> I won't name @openmoko have resulted in no replies.
>>
>> Regards
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Lorn Potter <lpotter at trolltech.com>
>> To: community at lists.openmoko.org
>> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:51:12 +1000
>> Subject: Re: GTK in Qtopia
>> On Wednesday 30 July 2008 4:52:25 pm Charles-Henri Gros wrote:
>> > > Back in the glorious days of Qtopia2 (o zauri, where are thou?),
>> there
>> > > was an X server running on top of Qt-embedded. I'm pretty sure it
>> > > stalled since then, but one can give it a try
>> > > (http://xqt.sourceforge.jp/).
>> > >
>> > > BTW, it might have been a quicker way to reach the "let's run
>> random X
>> > > apps aside Qtopia ones" goal without porting the whole Qtopia to
>> X11.
>> > > Just the other way around, I guess.
>> >
>> > Some people are already complaining that X is slow, I can't even
>> imagine
>> > what it would be if coded on top of Qt...
>>
>> xqt was actually quite usable, even on the old zaurus.
>>
>> --
>> Lorn 'ljp' Potter
>> Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company
>>
>>
>>
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