new iphone

Rahul Joshi rjoshi31 at
Mon Jun 2 14:02:42 CEST 2008

I completely see where you are coming from. Comparisons are inevitable and
imo your points are mostly valid here.
Android vs Openmoko vs iPhone OSX. You can take this comparison out of the
community but you cannot escape it. I bet everyone have put their 2 cents to
it already, and so some ppl are here and some there.
Someone said iPhone and Freerunner are leagues apart, but why then I ask are
they compared to, in our own wiki page? Surely because they deserve to.
Same with Android. Saying Openmoko complements Android leaves a lot more to
imagine. The discussion has to be on physical merits too. I'm sure everyone
would like to have it from the big guys @ Openmoko - the real deal where it
gets down and dirty, the future as THEY see, any social impacts, oh. yes and
the much talked about target audience too.
If FreeRunner lacks in some areas, so what? Nothing is perfect and nobody
should shy from that as well. There are 10 other FreeeRunner benefits worth
writing about too, yes?

I personally resisted the charms of iPhone because it just didnt cut it for
the mini-geek in me. Openmoko sounds perfect atm. Android.. hmm.. somehow I
dont like the idea of big corporates controlling (ok, guiding) big standards
which can affect day-to-day life in a big way. Cant put my thought down.

Rahul J

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Christian Benke <benkokakao at>

> > Note: Yes, it's a bit melodramatic on the surface, but I think we can all
> > start to feel the undertow of a lot of political, social and
> philosophical
> > movements once again under way globally.  I have this uneasy feeling that
> > our choices around freedom just may have much more significant
> implications
> > that we realize right now.
> Yes, all off you guys are absolutely right. Its only the temptation to
> have a fully working product for the same money, pure end user view.
> But of course that's not what openmoko is about at the current state.
> Yesterday i was playing with an iPhone and i just thought "It works,
> very responsive, and the browser is usable, and it has multitouch, and
> there will be an even better version soon", shiny and complete. Evil
> temptation of "Do want" ;-)
> But of course there are all of your arguments, proprietary software
> just doesn't feel right, it is stained, i'll always be missing
> something, not only metaphorically due to the political and
> philosophical constraints and the bad conscience that comes with it -
> with OSS you have so much more options to get involved in the
> development of a product and give feedback, also if you are not a
> programmer, and if you don't give the feedback, someone else will have
> done it already. The user is the major part of OSS, not a company with
> marketing ideas is the strong drive behind decisions but the whishes
> of the people that are using it.
> Oh, and not to forget the choice - people are not homogenized - "We
> have created the software this way and this is the right way, you
> can't dislike it, obey" doesn't happen, hundreds of people create and
> recreate the software to reflect their individual choice and it's much
> more likely that one of the choices also comes close to your needs(I
> love fluxbox for instance). And there is still the option to change it
> your way if you know how.
> Well, in the end i guess i'll just wait a few more months and see how
> openmoko evolves, i don't really need a solution right now, currently
> it would only be a matter of convenience(Mobile mail, maps, http). In
> a year i plan to go travelling for a long time and i will really need
> a mobile communication solution, and the more customizable it is, the
> better. I hope till then there will be a OSS-solution where i don't
> have to think quadruple about the drawbacks and compromises(I'm one of
> those guys that is seeking days for the perfect, minimalistic solution
> with the least compromises)
> Regards and thanks for the moral backing
> Christian
> _______________________________________________
> Openmoko community mailing list
> community at
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...

More information about the community mailing list