Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

Joerg Reisenweber joerg at
Tue Jun 3 03:36:09 CEST 2008

I'm not sure about my NDA, but this topic has been around quite some while 
now. So mickeyl says "it's about evolution, not revolution". GTA03 -the 
recycled name- (which I'm working on the electric schematics of the device 
right now) is an improved version of GTA02 (if plans don't change ;), fixing 
some "bugs"/annoyances/EndOfLive-chips-issues of GTA02/FR (like kicking 
glamo) and introducing some gimmicks not worth (IMHO) to mention in the tech 
specs (mostly design). We will have a 3.5mm audio connector mostly compliant 
(augmented with some of my weird ideas like stereo line-in, if it pans out) 
and it's our first goal to make a (even more) stable device based on what we 
done so far. 
GTA04 OTOH is about breaking new shores trying to bring exiting new power to 
the Neo line.
{{to the best of my knowledge this info is not exceeding a summary of what's 
been already published by others in IRC and mailing lists so far. Maybe Sean, 
our boss, likes to give more detail}}

Nobody should wait for GTA03 if you decided you like have an 02 (for some of 
the GTA01 owners YMMV). 
GTA04 is a different thing and I dare to assume won't escape of vaporware 
status this year.

All this been told to you by some other person ;-). Plans change rapidly 
sometimes. Please don't quote me when you think you have to complain about "I 

Your hardware development guy

Am Di  3. Juni 2008 schrieb Sergey Volkov:
> Hello, openmoko community.
> I have a question regarding future products of Openmoko. Wiki says
> that GTA03 is actually HXD8, a car
> navigation system. This claim is based on a post by Michael Lauer,
> But IMHO that inference is not obvious:
> Martin Bernreuther writes:
> > looking at the Wiki, there're also speculations about another Neo-like 
> >
> > This seems not to correspond to the GTA04. (Maybe  HXD8==GTA03?)
> > Is there a more complete roadmap about the "Neo-Productline" somewhere?
> And Michael Lauer replies:
> > > device:
> > This cat is long out of the box. It's the Dash Express device.
> For me the actual question of GTA03 vs. GTA04 remains unanswered.
> Also, Michael Lauer recently posted
> following on the openmoko-kernel list:
> > I don't want to talk too much about future products, but I would vote 
> > going away from NAND for 03 -- there's too many business risks. 03 is 
> > evolution. 04 is revolution.
> This makes the issue completely unclear, esp. GTA03 part. AFAIK (my
> opinion stems from
> the discussion which took place in May on the hardware list) GTA04 is
> a brand new
> device based on a more advanced SoC. But it's very hard to find any info on 
> Could anybody unveil the GTA03 mystery? What are the hardware specs, will 
> shared-slow-videoRAM-bus issue be fixed (for me it's the main reason
> to wait for the
> next device)?
> Any comments from openmoko employees are especially welcome ! (:
> PS don't kick me too hard, it's my first post to this list (;
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