Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

steve steve at
Thu Jun 5 17:12:43 CEST 2008

Ya, there are also ugly taxes on FM last time I looked. ( in EU) 


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Subject: Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

Stroller wrote:
> Yeah, but you're the guys who can just slip the odd extra chip into  
> the design without anyone else noticing.   ;)

don't think so ;)

> If questioned just tell management that Classic FM is required to 
> soothe the kernel penguins.

well.. it adds power, space and cost and complexity to the whole thing.
and quite ugly rf validation and eventually even certification requirements
depending on where you plan to sell it i guess ;)

it was already discussed in detail last year i think.

to sum it up: OM does know that _some_ people want a fm radio.
same as for electronic (magnetic) compass, a rfid transceiver/nfc stuff,
embedded micro-beamers, fm transmitters, dvb-t/h receivers, dab/drm
receivers etc. or a camera.
others again do not want some parts with a reason (price, size, usage
constraints (some companies forbid entering with a cameraphone)

we just need to make the best out of it for all involved parties:
* om needs to build and sell hardware
* the community wants to get a device which is not vaporvare and not in
development forever.

so we need to find a nice compromise and be careful what to add, in which
configuration and for which product to please us all (the community when it
comes to features and availability as well as price and size) and om in the
cause to survive by building real free and open designs.

not easy all the time, but i think it helps us all, if everybody knows that
its 'not that easy' to add some part just like that, but hard work.
to find components we can and want use, which are available and please om as
well as the community due to price, availability, features and size AND open
documentations or drivers is sometimes very time consuming.

as for fm.. its kinda borderline for me, (personally, not that my opinion
counts more than yours) since i never listen to fm radio anymore.
its more important to have the 3.5 mm jack for reasonable headphones, and a
solid and good quality audio electronics in front of that, for me.
lets all thank joerg, that he has already taken care of that ;) kudos.



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