No 3G for GTA03, 2G/EDGE only?

Mo Abrahams moabrahams at
Wed Jun 11 00:46:44 CEST 2008

I think he might have been confusing EDGE with HSDPA, which can compete
with broadband speeds (and is marketed by some as mobile broadband)

For me the lack of 3G is a sticking point. Having just taken out a
contract with 3 (best price plan and good coverage for where I am about
to move), and absolutely loving the advantages that 3G brings, I am
wondering whether I can bear to go back to an inferior technology. I am
all for openness, my computers all run linux, my nintendo DS runs linux,
I will probably install it on a partition of my brain when the
technology arises, but there is a line at which I say "I am paying for
something here JUST because it is open, I already have something with
more of the features that are important to me". At the moment I am still
strongly tempted to get a GTA02 although it would be more like a PDA to
me than a phone since I wouldn't use my SIM in it, but if there was a
model with 3G I would definitely be getting, and phoning with, it.


On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 22:31 +0200, thomasg wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:12 PM, <wim.delvaux at>
> wrote:
>         In fact 2G/Edge is really fast (more like standard ADSL speeds
>         over here in
>         Europe).
> You're kidding, right?
> EDGE maxes out at about 470 kbps - if you get a full channel (8
> timeslots) for yourself.
> In most GSM networks one of the timeslots is reserved for signalling
> (BCCH) so 7 staying (~420 kbps).
> Even this is only true if you get coding scheme 9. But then you'd have
> to have a device that supports EDGE at this rates.
> Most devices only support up to ~250 kbps (mostly less). Under real
> life conditions you'll get about 120 to 200 kbps as best rates.
> In germany DSL starts at 384 kbps if the landline is very long. The
> slowest available option normally is 1000 kbps. The average should be
> between 3000 and 6000 kbps. 16000 kbps are available in most areas.
> Max is at 25000 or 50000 in some cities.
> There are other countries like sweden where much higher rates are
> common.
>         Also latency is the real pain for Cellurar communication.
>         CU
>         W
>         >
>         > That sounds crazy!
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