Openmoko strives for openness
joerg
joerg.twinklephone at gmx.de
Thu Mar 27 19:46:52 CET 2008
Am Do 27. März 2008 schrieb Lally Singh:
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Andy Green <andy at openmoko.com> wrote:
> > Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> >
> > >> 2. Actually, is there any hope of getting 3d acceleration out of the
> > >> graphics chip, or is that too bogged down with NDA-ness? Are we stuck
> > >> porting Mesa3D?
> >
> > Chance, sure, but the NDA situation is pretty bad it turns out for the
> > Glamo.
>
> It's a shame! Poor (Glamo) fools are shooting themselves in the foot
> on this one.
full ACK! Anyway there's hope, there were volunteers on one of the lists
yesterday, who might be willing to sign a NDA.
>
> > Generally speaking USB of one kind or another will very likely be around
> > in one form or another... it will be a much better solution to make such
> > a device a USB peripheral since you don't have to open the case, can
> > unplug to revert to just being a phone, you get power provided from the
> > phone, can use on other hosts, etc. And at some point it will very
> > likely be 480Mbps (GTA02 is 12Mbps) DMA'd in and out, so bandwidth won't
> > be an issue. I really recommend this path for any non-casual hacking.
>
> USB2 would be fast, but AFAIK it tends to suck away all your CPU.
Huh, it's "DMA'd in and out" (for S3C6500), so is there that much protocol
overhead?
> Something a little smarter, like firewire?
>
>
> > > Promiscuous mode? I would prefer full packet injection ;) see those wep
> > > networks crumble.
> >
> > Full (radiotap) injection is useful for non-evil things too, the problem
> > with Monitor mode and the injection is the same: the closed firmware
> > doesn't offer it at the moment, and the firmware alone handles the MAC
> > for the current WLAN device.
>
> My own prefs aside, this one's a biggie. If OM's looking at
> potentially changing
> chips down the road, something a lot more hackable here would be wonderful.
Yeah, WLAN without aireplay doesn't make real sense for a hacker's geek gadget
like NEO.
jOERG
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