Openmoko strives for openness

joerg joerg.twinklephone at
Thu Mar 27 19:46:52 CET 2008

Am Do  27. März 2008 schrieb Lally Singh:
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Andy Green <andy at> wrote:
> > Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> >
> >  >> 2. Actually, is there any hope of getting 3d acceleration out of the
> >  >> graphics chip, or is that too bogged down with NDA-ness?  Are we stuck
> >  >> porting Mesa3D?
> >
> >  Chance, sure, but the NDA situation is pretty bad it turns out for the
> >  Glamo.
> It's a shame!  Poor (Glamo) fools are shooting themselves in the foot
> on this one.

full ACK! Anyway there's hope, there were volunteers on one of the lists 
yesterday, who might be willing to sign a NDA.

> >  Generally speaking USB of one kind or another will very likely be around
> >  in one form or another... it will be a much better solution to make such
> >  a device a USB peripheral since you don't have to open the case, can
> >  unplug to revert to just being a phone, you get power provided from the
> >  phone, can use on other hosts, etc.  And at some point it will very
> >  likely be 480Mbps (GTA02 is 12Mbps) DMA'd in and out, so bandwidth won't
> >  be an issue.  I really recommend this path for any non-casual hacking.
>  USB2 would be fast, but AFAIK it tends to suck away all your CPU.

Huh, it's "DMA'd in and out" (for S3C6500), so is there that much protocol 

> Something a little smarter, like firewire?
> >  > Promiscuous mode? I would prefer full packet injection ;) see those wep
> >  > networks crumble.
> >
> >  Full (radiotap) injection is useful for non-evil things too, the problem
> >  with Monitor mode and the injection is the same: the closed firmware
> >  doesn't offer it at the moment, and the firmware alone handles the MAC
> >  for the current WLAN device.
> My own prefs aside, this one's a biggie.  If OM's looking at
> potentially changing
> chips down the road, something a lot more hackable here would be wonderful.

Yeah, WLAN without aireplay doesn't make real sense for a hacker's geek gadget 
like NEO.


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