questions for steve regarding group purchases

Crane, Matthew mcrane03 at
Thu May 8 19:35:52 CEST 2008

Yea, there's all kinds of ways that people use every day to transact
with others who they've no way of meeting or even calling on the phone.
If you are concerned, then maybe the price to fix the concern is to just
order the phone individually.

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Subject: Re: questions for steve regarding group purchases

On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Joachim Steiger <roh at>
> hi michele
> Michele Renda wrote:
>> For openmok there is no difference, except than to pay x9 more
payment fee.
> i beg to differ. the whole handling would make the gain of readily
> packaging 10-packs and ship these en bloc to one dest. vanish.
> so larry is right. thats like requesting 10% generic discount
> the whole point of it is: we are no escrow company, we are no bank, we
> are not paypal.
> we build the free and open mobile phone.
> and we want to focus on that.

I agree with Joachim.

And one tips on how to solve this with payment. The person ordering
the 10-pack could
make a simple contract for payment & delivery of the phone. Then
people could pay
and as long as they can prove they payed, it would be up to the hub
person to prove
he sent the phone. The contract must include payment & shipping details.

I will make a group order and have this kind of contract with some,
because I do not
have enough cash to order 22 phones ++.

I think OM should just provide the 10-pack deal or the single phone
deal. If people do
not trust each other, then they order a single phone and get no
quantum discount.
This is not OM's problem. Please let OM do their job with developing
the phone. They
are not a shipping&insurance company.

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