Neo as cellular modem?

Michael Shiloh michael at openmoko.org
Fri May 30 02:59:28 CEST 2008


Valid idea. Thanks for mentioning this.

Michael

David Samblas Martinez wrote:
>   If anyone is really interested in make this phone an AP to whatever 
> use  and  if a  external power is  an option, why not use a USB 1.1 
> wireless adapter able to  do that even it only do it  in b instead of g 
> if the usb 1.1 doen't allow  the 54 Mb/s.it can be very probable that 
> can even use monitor mode with that dongle ;) even without external 
> power it can be doable for a shorts periods of time (well battery will 
> decide the timeframe)
> 
> 
> --- El *jue, 29/5/08, Michael Shiloh /<michael at openmoko.org>/* escribió:
> 
>     De: Michael Shiloh <michael at openmoko.org>
>     Asunto: Re: Neo as cellular modem?
>     Para: "List for Openmoko community discussion"
>     <community at lists.openmoko.org>
>     Fecha: jueves, 29 mayo, 2008 6:00
> 
>     Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
>     > On Thu, 29 May 2008 08:59:10 +0200, Andy Green <andy at openmoko.com>
>     wrote:
>     > 
>     >> We're helpless unless Atheros decided to implement Master mode in
>     their
>     >> closed firmware.  Unfortunately the power advantages of having the
>     bulk
>     >> of the ieee80211 actions managed in the firmware are pretty compelling
>     >> so I don't know how we get out of that bind.
>     > 
>     > The very knowledge that we can't do something that the hardware would 
>     > technically be capable of is annoying, 
> 
>     Strongly agree. In some cases this was a result of the agreement we were 
>     able to reach with the chip manufacturer in order to open source the 
>     driver. We don't view this as a perfect solution, but rather a good 
>     start.
>      Hopefully in the future the success of Openmoko will encourage 
>     chip manufacturers to become more open.
> 
> 
>     > but I don't really see why we would need to implement a true AP in the
>     phone. 
> 
>     Strongly disagree. Innovation is stifled whenever choices are limited 
>     simply because we can't think of why someone would want to make that 
>     choice. We should always strive to make such choices available.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     For any reasonable use
>     > case I can think of, ad-hoc mode should be enough. The only usability 
>     > advantage of being an AP would be that it can send beacon packets that 
>     > allow other devices to detect an available network, but sending beacon 
>     > would be a battery drain anyway.
> 
>     Assuming the use case made sense, the Freerunner could be powered 
>     externally.
> 
>     Michael
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