Email notification by VoIP. Was: Re: Om2008.8: execute script on incoming call
stroller at stellar.eclipse.co.uk
Mon Sep 1 16:43:29 CEST 2008
On 31 Aug 2008, at 11:56, Rod Whitby wrote:
> Stroller wrote:
>> On 30 Aug 2008, at 05:34, Rod Whitby wrote:
>>> Please don't assume that everyone has unlimited data plans.
>> "Please don't assume" probably won't prevent developers from doing
> Nothing can prevent open source developers from taking any world view
> they please. That's their right. That's why I'm educating them with
> the message that unlimited data plans are not available in all
> parts of
> the world.
Your assertive tone here sounds like you're upset with me for
questioning you. Please chill out.
Nothing can prevent open source developers from taking any world view
they please - that's why I ASKED YOU to educate them. Your previous
message wasn't educational because it just said "please don't assume"
without providing any depthful understanding of your problems.
>> How much does data transfer cost there? (comparison of data cost
>> relative to calls?)
> 1c per Kb. Calls are about 30c/min.
A quick summary stating "checking email every day would add $XX to my
current $YY monthly phonebill" might make your education more memorable.
>> Why is the situation unlikely to change in the foreseeable?
> There are no market forces that will make it change, as Australia is a
> large country with a relatively sparse population (2.6 people per
I'm surprised that makes any difference. I'd have thought the
majority of data users were in the cities. A telco could provide
GPRS / 3G data only in metropolitan areas or apply their unlimited
data plans only in those areas. At the end of the day unlimited data
has only become available in other countries because it's in Telco
X's interest to induce customers away from Telco Y. Even restricting
unlimited data to metropolitan areas one would sway a profitable
percentage of customers.
Once you have the infrastructure in place I understood the cost of
shifting data to be relatively low. I appreciate that this my not
scale for very long data lines, but once you've built cell towers in
rural areas you have to supply them with bandwidth for voice.
>>> I expect the IMAP client on my openmoko phone to be able to
>>> download all
>>> my email for offline reading, deleting, and replying on the bus with
>>> *no* internet connectivity, and then sync all those changes
>>> to the server as soon as I get the next internet connection.
>> I expect that, too. Certainly under my data plan this would be
>> essential for foreign holidays.
> It's good that our needs are identical then. Ability to do stuff when
> connected, and ability to do stuff when not connected as well. As
> opposed to an assumption that someone is always connected.
Our needs aren't identical because I can enable checking every 5
minutes when at home and disable it when on holiday. On holiday I can
check once per day or just manage without email on my phone - I can
survive with an internet cafe for a couple of weeks per year. In fact
I have been known to leave my phone at home when on holiday, for
various reasons - for 2 weeks per year I can manage without.
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