Steve Mosher steve at
Mon Apr 6 00:53:01 CEST 2009

as always, ditto, what joerg said. I could release the GTA03 design 
files, but there value is limited. If the design were verified (DVT)
and made ready for production (PVT) then the design files would only
have value for somebody who wanted to quickly produce PCBs. As a 
resource for a design mod ( take out edge and add in 3G) it's of limited
value since that new design will have different dimensions and will
therefore have knock-on effects on ME and  RFs.. see joergs comment 
about the systems intgration systems engineering task ( layout,EE,ME, 
and procuremnt)

Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> Am So  5. April 2009 schrieb Lothar Behrens:
>> Hi,
>> I am mostly reading and sometime writing here. If it was useful or  
>> useless - I don't know. But anyway.
>> Isn't it possible to also develop hardware collaboratively?
> [...]
> Hi Lothar,
> nope this won't fly. It's basically the sw pov approach to hw development 
> Steve mentioned in one of his current posts.
> Developing hw is more than creating a good looking schematics in Eagle, and 
> tasks like layout are partially done by autorouter and the other half is a 
> *close* *interactive* process between the layout gal, the EE guys, the RF 
> guys, the ME dept, sourcing dept etc etc.
> IIRC OM had some really nasty experience when outsourcing some layout task. 
> Just because the layout didn't understand exactly what EE had in mind when 
> creating the schem, and EE didn't closely check the work of layouters.
> for your Q about project files instead of pdf: OM is making money by selling 
> hw, so there's not much sense in publishing data that doesn't help EE guys in 
> community to understand the hw but instead is only needed for production 
> purposes. In the end you can't do anything on a single-device basis with 
> layout or schem proj data you couldn't do without it. Or are you the guy 
> who's etching 8-layer at home and soldering uBGA by hand? ;-) You can't patch 
> a ready-done 8layer PCB, no matter what your document files are (sw POV on 
> hw!). And no company is going to invest in producing some dozen proto PCB 
> done by "anonymous" community guys, without checking each and every trace and 
> footprint again what in the end for sure is more work than doing it inhouse 
> from scratch.
> Other companies tend to keep schematics closed to protect their IP, so we at 
> OM at least don't want to give asian cloners a kickstart without adding *any* 
> benefit for our customers.
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