Why enlightenment?

Bram Neijt bneijt at gmail.com
Thu Apr 16 00:05:55 CEST 2009

Saying that the libs are dedicated to the Neo sounds like my worst
nightmare: no application anywhere ever uses them.. except for some of
the programs written specially for the Neo. That would imply that, if
you ever want to use an application on the Neo, you will have to port it
(or live with the overhead of running multiple GUI toolkits at the same

Saying we only need good apps sounds like a big understatement of the
problem. The open source world is full of good apps, the problem is: not
only do we need good apps, they need to be coded from scratch.

I'm not familiar with the layout possibilities of e, however in my
experience, the more freedom you give the developers, the more horrid
the design :(. This often leeds to differently sized fonts, with buttons
sized to the text they contain, and no place for the user to start or
stop looking at the application. I've even seen interfaces where you
where never sure weather something was a button or not, let alone what
would happen if you tried to click on it.

Most developers are like people making their first Powerpoint
presentation. Everybody has seen those: everything has a different
color, size, and it all flies around with sound effects.


On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 23:35 +0200, Johny Tenfinger wrote:
> E libraries seems to be a fastest and lightnest on Neo hardware. When
> using proper theme of course. And they provide very nice way for
> layouting. I was sceptic about e too, but when I see that libs in
> action (from both user and developer side), I'm sure that was good
> decision. There is even Illume and Elememtary, which are dedicated to
> devices like Neo. We only need good apps, which are using those libs.
> 2009/4/15, Cedric Cellier <rixed at happyleptic.org>:
> > If you'd prefer using Qt or GTK, both have dedicated distros.
> >
> > For instance, hackable:1 is the continuation of the initial OpenMoko
> > software
> > stack that was based on GTK.
> >
> > As to why openmoko guys decided one day to sacrifice all the work already
> > done
> > with GTK and to go for a plain new framework, well you should as well ask
> > "Why those Moai on the Easter island" ? :-)
> >
> >
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