Why enlightenment?
Johny Tenfinger
seba.dos1 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 16 00:30:48 CEST 2009
No, you didn't understand me. It isn't dedicated for Neo. It's
designed for handheld devices. Like Neo. And under that environment
you can still use other toolkits. And when I said about good apps I
was thinking about phone apps. And it seems that SHR has really good,
e17 phone apps. They would be perfect, if only there is opimd support
and some "today" screen :)
2009/4/16, Bram Neijt <bneijt at gmail.com>:
> Saying that the libs are dedicated to the Neo sounds like my worst
> nightmare: no application anywhere ever uses them.. except for some of
> the programs written specially for the Neo. That would imply that, if
> you ever want to use an application on the Neo, you will have to port it
> (or live with the overhead of running multiple GUI toolkits at the same
> time).
>
> Saying we only need good apps sounds like a big understatement of the
> problem. The open source world is full of good apps, the problem is: not
> only do we need good apps, they need to be coded from scratch.
>
> I'm not familiar with the layout possibilities of e, however in my
> experience, the more freedom you give the developers, the more horrid
> the design :(. This often leeds to differently sized fonts, with buttons
> sized to the text they contain, and no place for the user to start or
> stop looking at the application. I've even seen interfaces where you
> where never sure weather something was a button or not, let alone what
> would happen if you tried to click on it.
>
> Most developers are like people making their first Powerpoint
> presentation. Everybody has seen those: everything has a different
> color, size, and it all flies around with sound effects.
>
> Bram
>
> On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 23:35 +0200, Johny Tenfinger wrote:
>> E libraries seems to be a fastest and lightnest on Neo hardware. When
>> using proper theme of course. And they provide very nice way for
>> layouting. I was sceptic about e too, but when I see that libs in
>> action (from both user and developer side), I'm sure that was good
>> decision. There is even Illume and Elememtary, which are dedicated to
>> devices like Neo. We only need good apps, which are using those libs.
>>
>> 2009/4/15, Cedric Cellier <rixed at happyleptic.org>:
>> > If you'd prefer using Qt or GTK, both have dedicated distros.
>> >
>> > For instance, hackable:1 is the continuation of the initial OpenMoko
>> > software
>> > stack that was based on GTK.
>> >
>> > As to why openmoko guys decided one day to sacrifice all the work
>> > already
>> > done
>> > with GTK and to go for a plain new framework, well you should as well
>> > ask
>> > "Why those Moai on the Easter island" ? :-)
>> >
>> >
>> >
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