microsoft patent with idea's from this list

Mathieu Rochette mathroc at
Tue Feb 3 16:35:57 CET 2009

Peter Nijs wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 February 2009 15:11:40 Mathieu Rochette wrote:
>> Peter Nijs wrote:
>>> I've just read a (Dutch) news article
>>> (
>>> -pc- patenteren.html) which describes a new patent microsoft filed. In the
>>> article is a link to an English description of the patent.
>>> (
>>> 44A2&KC=A2&FT=D&date=20090122&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_US)
>>> The patent describes a dock for a smartphone, which connects to external
>>> devices such as a keyboard, mouse, screen,... wired or wireless. Now I
>>> think Openmoko already does a lot of these things, and other things have
>>> already been thought of. We can already hook up wired and wireless
>>> devices (such as mice and keyboards) to the Freerunner. I'm almost sure
>>> someone suggested hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically
>>> not possible, but it's been thought of. Integrating the wired connection
>>> between FR and the external devices has also been thought of earlier in
>>> this list.
>> wikipedia says:
>>   >  >  a patent application must include one or more claims defining the>
>>   >  >  invention which must be new, inventive, and useful or industrially
>>   >  >  applicable.
>> "one or more" means that even if prior art exists, it can still be
>> patented. This is different from intellectual property where anteriority
>> prevent copyright. (at least in france)
> But it also seas it must be new. Which it isn't because it has been suggested
> on this list before.

(usefull, industrially applicable) IS "one or more" of (new, inventive, 
usefull, industrially applicable)).
So if it hasn't yet been patented, it can. No need to be new.

I do not like patent but it's how it is.
>>> I'm not a lawyer, but since the patent was published on the 22th of
>>> January, I think for some parts of this patent, there is some sort of
>>> "prior art" involved. Also it wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft and Apple
>>> are eavesdropping on this list. (Note to Microsoft and Apple: Please
>>> don't steal our idea's. If you do: Please die a slow and painfull death.)
>>> mvg,
>>> depeje
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